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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:40 PM
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Bush's Poll Numbers Show Underlying Weakness
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 05:42 PM by louis c
The most recent Zogby poll shows deeper trouble for President Bush than just the horse race. Mr. Bush has fallen in key areas while Senator Kerry has shored up numerous constituencies in his base.

The most important group.... is the undecideds, and Mr. Bush's standing among them is weak.

Kerry is retaining a similar vote to Gore's Jewish vote in 2000. Mr. Bush is running far behind his Hispanic vote total in 2000. Kerry is running very strong among Catholics.

Bush is showing weakness even in the South.

Blue states, which favored Gore in 2000, favor Kerry by an overwhelming 12 points, yet the red states which favored Bush in 2000, give the President just a 2 point advantage. Kerry holds a huge lead among single voters. Young voters (18-29), which Gore carried by just 2 points in 2000, has Kerry winning in a landslide, 53%-33%.


Kerry leads 2-1 among voters who did not vote in 2000 (50%-25%), leads 3-1 among voters who voted Nader in 2000 (75%-25%),and he is stealing twice as many Bush voters in 2000, than he is losing Gore voters (8%-4%).


http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=849
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:50 PM
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1. Undecideds will always be easy for the challenger to pick up
After all, if they liked Bush then they wouldn't be undecideds would they? This is great news.

I can't wait for November 2nd man. Pulling the lever for Kerry will be great. What will be even greater is going to free republic on election night and watching the meltdown. It will be better than sex.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:53 PM
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3. The underlying weakness of Bush is Bush.Or is it Cheney? Or
is it Rumsfeld? Or is it Condi? Or is it Powell? Or is it----?
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:56 PM
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7.  You forgot Ashcroft
Of all the cabinet members he pisses me off the most.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:12 PM
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9. Sorry, you are so right!
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:55 PM
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5. By the way
these numbers were compiled before the DNC.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:33 AM
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14. I hope so....
...the undecideds are basically the uninformed. The people who pay attention the week before the election and go hmmm...who do I like?

Wouldn't it be great if the democrats would focus on the 50% who don't vote at all, instead of the ignorant who don't really care.

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:51 PM
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2. Thanks for the good news
which I'm sure will be reported without delay on all the cable networks (not).:toast:
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:54 PM
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4. One of the regulars here (TruthIsAll???)
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 06:14 PM by tcfrogs
uses 70% of the undecideds to add to Kerry. Says it's based on historical precedent. Makes sense to me.

Unfortuntely, things will most likely bounce back for the Repugs, probably after convention time. Marathon, not a sprint, folks.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 06:00 PM
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8. Numbers are before convention
and undecideds trend to the challenger in every case since 1948.

The low was just over 60% for McGovern in 1972, the high is 80% for Reagan in 1980. All others fall in between. Clinton and Perot combined for 75% in 1992. All others fall in between. 70% of undecideds is a safe bet for Kerry this year.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:55 PM
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6. I saw a WSJ article that said 70% of undecideds don't like Bush.
That is great news for us.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:26 PM
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10. kick
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:40 PM
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11. And the big question still asked on CNN
"Why can't Kerry gain any advantage over Bush?"

Last night Wolfe and Woodruff were asking those kind of questions of Mary Beth Cahil and she gave great answers. They asked her why Bush was up 18 points on Kerry when it comes to terror and she listed all the things that Kerry had more points than Bush. Bush has one thing and Kerry has all the rest.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:59 PM
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12. Back to Haunt them
One of the truly arrogant things this 'administration' did when initially in office was to decline the use of certain well-established criteria for adjusting the national census.
For decades the census had been very scientifically and meticulously adjusted to reflect populations who were bereft of contact with the more general populous.
Then, in a very Rove-like move, the administration declined the employment of the census adjustment in order to shore up certain congressional districts. A kind of 'hands-off' jerrymandering so to speak.
I argued then that doing so would become self-correcting as disenfranchised populations found conditions deteriorating due to lack of recognition.

Boy do I hope this Bites their arrogant posteriors!
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:22 AM
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13. kick
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