Tweety - Clarence Thomas - Opus Dei?

[DURHAM D]

Has it occurred to anyone after Matthew's attack of Sharpton in defense of his good friend Clarence Thomas that Chris (like Clarence Thomas, Scalia, Louie Freeh and Robert Hanseen) is a member of opus dei?

How old is Chris? He is clearly an idiot about the history of admission of women and minorities to professional schools.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. His Age: somewhere between 56-59.

[LittleApple81]

2. If he is a member of the Opus Dei it would explain a lot. That

organization is absolutely horrid. The founder worked closely with Franco... it is very secretive and wants to maintain power within the Catholic Church in the hands of the ultra-conservatives and in Latin American countries they are allied with the dominant oligarchy.

[seemslikeadream]

6. Küng is a member of Opus Dei

Abuse scandal in Austrian diocese prompts investigation
By JOHN L. ALLEN JR.
Rome

Responding to a mounting sex abuse crisis in Austria, the Vatican has named an apostolic investigator to examine revelations that some 40,000 images of child pornography have been discovered in the seminary in the Sankt Pölten diocese, along with pictures of seminarians and priests in sexually explicit poses.


The man at the center of the storm is Sankt Pölten’s Bishop Kurt Krenn, 68, who so far has refused to resign, and has insisted that the pictures of seminarians and priests amount to a “schoolboy prank” that “had nothing to do with homosexuality.”

Krenn, who has long had a high media profile in Austria because of his outspoken personal style, is widely seen as perhaps the most conservative bishop in the country.

On July 20, the Vatican announced that Bishop Klaus Küng, 63, of Feldkirch had been appointed to look into the crisis. Küng is a member of Opus Dei, generally seen as on the conservative wing of the Catholic church. Many Austrian observers believe the choice reflects a determination that the results of Küng’s investigation cannot be dismissed as an ideological attempt to discredit Krenn.

One potential complication in removing Krenn may be that he is rumored to be on friendly terms with Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz, the private secretary of Pope John Paul II. Given that perception, Vatican sources told NCR July 21, there is special concern in Rome that all the facts of the case be carefully documented.

Whatever support Krenn may have enjoyed inside Austria, however, appears to be eroding quickly. On July 20, Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna said on national television that the Austrian bishops had repeatedly warned Krenn that he had to change his style of governing, and specifically that he should not accept candidates for the seminary who had been expelled from seminaries in other dioceses. Schonbörn expressed frustration that the Vatican had not exerted pressure on Krenn in the past.

Küng arrived in Sankt Pölten on the morning of July 21 to begin his inquest. In a brief interview with national television the night before, he said he intended to speak with a wide cross-section of people, and study not just the seminary but the entire situation in the diocese. Küng did not say how long he expected the investigation to take, but some Austrian sources have said they anticipate it will require perhaps three to four weeks.
http://ncronline.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2004c/073004/073004n.php

[Scorpious_Maximus]

8. NO SH*T

We have a nasty little cult of Opus Dei in Rhode Island.

Rabid little f*ckers if you ask me.

The Governor of RI, Don Carcieri's wife is involved with these fundies.

(However, we got GREAT NEWS TODAY here in the Biggest Little, the Democrat controlled General Assembly threw a veto over Indians wanting to build a casino here, RIGHT BACK AT HIM!!
:toast:

[DemoTex]

3. Bingo.

Obviously and admittedly Catholic. I wouldn't be surprised if both Chris Matthews and Tim Russert weren't members of Opus Dei. Any way to check that out? I've got a weird cousin who is OD. Maybe if I catch him at a weak moment ...

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. May I add: I consider Opus Dei to be the KKK for Catholics.

:puke:

[DemoTex]

15. So do I

It is the KKK and Bob Jones for Catholics.

[Old and In the Way]

5. Tweet and Clarence both went to Holy Cross, a Jesuit College.

I don't remember anything about Opus Dei when I was there in the early 70s, though.

[Davis_X_Machina]

9. I like to think...

that Michael Harrington '47, the author of The Other America, and a founder of Democratic Socialists of America, and Phil Berrigan, '50, help to cancel out Chris and Clarence.

Choo-Choo Rah-Rah for Holy Cross!

{Class of '79}

[DURHAM D]

12. I'm confused

Are you indicating that Harrington and Berrigan are Jesuits or Opus Dei?

[Old and In the Way]

18. Phil Berrigan was a Jesuit....I think Dan was in another order.

Neither Harrington or Berrigan were Opus Dei, I assure you of that.

[Old and In the Way]

16. '75 here.....

Good choices! I met Phil and Dan at HC in '71.....those were the days!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

10. Jesuits are Liberals at Heart. They are not Opus Dei and....

would condemn Tweety's support of *.

[Old and In the Way]

17. Very true.

But I doubt there are more than a handful of Jesuits teaching anymore. And there was a very conservative undercurrent to HC when I was there. I suspect that has become more the case over time.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

19. Father Andrew Greely is quite liberal as is

Loyola and Fairfield U.

[BrotherBuzz]

13. It appears they received the Pope's approval in 1982

http://www.americamagazine.org/articles/martin-opusdei.cfm

A pretty interesting read....

<snip>

In 1982 Pope John Paul II granted Opus Dei the status of “personal prelature,” a canonical term meaning that jurisdiction covers the persons in Opus Dei rather than a particular region. In other words, it operates juridically much as religious orders do, without regard for geographical boundaries. This unique recognition—it is the only personal prelature in the church—demonstrated the high regard in which it is held by John Paul II as well as Opus Dei’s standing in Vatican circles. But it also prompted critics to ask why a professedly lay organization would need such a status. Today Opus Dei counts 77,000 members (including 1,500 priests and 15 bishops) in over 80 countries.

Further evidence of Vatican favor—and added legitimacy—came in 1992 when Escrivá was beatified in a ceremony attended by 300,000 supporters in St. Peter’s Square. But coming only a few years after Escrivá’s death in 1975 and leapfrogging over figures like Pope John XXIII, the beatification was, to say the least, controversial. “Is Sainthood Coming Too Quickly for Founder of Influential Catholic Group?” read a January 1992 New York Times headline, echoing other critical articles appearing around the same time. An article in The London Spectator, for example, included allegations by former close associates about Escrivá’s less than saintly behavior. “He had a filthy temper,” said one, “and pro-Nazi tendencies, but they never mention that.”

<more>

http://www.americamagazine.org/articles/martin-opusdei.cfm

[asjr]

7. I believe the double spy Hansen was a member also.

[DURHAM D]

11. Bad spelling

I meant Robert Hansen in original post - sorry I got excited. Yes, Hansen, Thomas, Scalia and FBI Director Freeh were all members of the same chapter in D.C.

[Stephanie]

14. Yes he was

Very, very intense and weird cult. Self-flagellation. Chains underneath their clothes. Weird stuff.

[DaveSZ]

20. It wouldn't surprise me

When I watch Tweety, he is always spouting GOP talking points.

He's the only so-called "fair" pundit I've seen talk about the conspiracy theories of Hillary and Bill not wanting Kerry/Edwards to win. That's something you'd expect Rush or Hannity to talk about.

[grasswire]

21. well....

...we know that he attended Bohemian Grove this summer, with the "best" of them.

Freeh, Scalia...who else is Opus Dei? Novakula?