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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:01 PM
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BILL MAHER ON NOW EDT
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:02 PM
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1. Michael Moore narrating a My Pet Goat tableau lol
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:08 PM
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2. Oh Oh
Nader ?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:13 PM
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3. wow, Moore gets standing O
and he wasn't even introduced!
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:17 PM
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5. Thanks
Its great
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:17 PM
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4. "Made In Canada"...
Cool Cap

What does the "S" stand for that he usually has on his hat ?
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:20 PM
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8. Michigan State (Spartans) n/t
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:31 PM
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22. Thanx...Always wondered
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jkbsun Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:20 PM
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10. the S on his other hat is for michigan state
in Michigan it is either U of M for or S for state
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zuzu98 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:20 PM
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11. Michigan State Spartans
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:18 PM
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6. Please tell me I can watch it on the internet...I don't have HBO!
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:20 PM
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9. You might as well try to get something free from Disney...
....or Bill Gates
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:26 PM
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15. BTW ...HBO is only about $2.50, without the "1st" run movies
Get it for 2 months,...then cancel
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:18 PM
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7. The bill CHANGED...Zing n/t
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jkbsun Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:24 PM
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14. repuke first bill then andre then Micheal Moore
MM: then will you call us flip foppers lol
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:21 PM
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12. Darn it , when it is repeated I'll ask my mother in law to tape it for me?
:hi:
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:41 PM
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29. this episode airs again on HBO
three times next week in my area, central time zone:

Monday, Aug. 2 at 12:00 am (midnight Sunday)
Tuesday, Aug. 3 at 11:00 pm
Wednesday, Aug. 4 at 10:30 pm
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:22 PM
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13. Logic...hurt...........brain
Must return to republic talking points
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:27 PM
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16. Name ONE thing......
Did you see the movie ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:07 PM
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58. "No but....."
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:28 PM
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17. I've already forgotton who that woman in the middle is
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:29 PM
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19. former Prime Minister of Canada
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:28 PM
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18. Dreier is getting smoked
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:29 PM
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20. Let ME go to Iraq !!!!.....PICK ME, PICK ME
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 10:30 PM by JohnnyRingo
What an ass that Drier is
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:31 PM
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21. Michael Moore just ate Rep. Dwyer's lunch!
Do they make transcripts of the show?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:33 PM
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23. Our governor Bill Owens
already acting snotty, totalling up all the theaters of power the GOP owns. The President, both houses, the judges, the governors, the state legislators...

man, we are screwed.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:09 PM
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60. He didn't come off so well.
Hopefully he'll be out of here soon.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 06:39 AM
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96. We have MOST
I was surprised someone didn't call him on this - he made it sound like there is a high majority of republicans in all of these offices.

While they may have a majority, in some/many cases it is razor thin.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:35 PM
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24. Oh good ...Democrats have ruined the good name of "liberal"
Is that why Hannity can't say the word without spitting ?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:56 PM
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38. Didn't you read the Obama piece on du earlier from the
Kansas paper that said Obama has made "Liberal" beautiful again..or something close like that?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:37 PM
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25. He's dodging the question
Would you sit and do nothing for 7 minutes

Hahahaha
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:39 PM
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26. Why does Ms Campbell sound so much smarter than Drier and Owens ?
Ohhhh ....I know why.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:40 PM
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27. Dreir's geting his ASS kicked
What douchebag
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:41 PM
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28. "Hey kids, got some president business, bye!"
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 10:41 PM by Cush
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:45 PM
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30. Y'know...These republican ass kissers don't make NEARLY
...enough money.

Full-time lying under qustioning, like this, has to be incredibly stressful
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:46 PM
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31. Time to paint Moore RED
...Sounds like a familiar tactic
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:50 PM
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32. This is the best show on tv
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:51 PM
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33. AHHHHHHHHH....I want a pic
Of Moore And Maher on their knees BEGGING Nader to drop out !
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:57 PM
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40. I saw that! And now I've got it muted and I'd rather read
what's being said then hear that scheeching! But that's just me!
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:52 PM
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34. Nader is an arrogant ass
He's totally delusional.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:52 PM
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35. Wow, Nader got hit hard.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:10 PM
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62. They didn't give him an inch.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:53 PM
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36. I bet Nader wishes it was easier to get his face on TV
Big time battering, tonight
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:54 PM
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37. What a show. Michael Moore, Kim Campbell and Bill on the
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 10:54 PM by Cleita
same page about Kerry. Ralph Nader sort of there but that freeper Congressman Drier, spouting all Bush lies, and even when confronted about it wouldn't admit he was wrong.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:58 PM
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41. His deoderant was working overtime, tonight
I hope he went home to watch how he did on TV....With his family.

"Guess I told him, didn't I, honey ?"
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 04:18 AM
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94. umm....
his "family"? If Dreier has a honey, he's not allowed to marry him.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:06 PM
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53. My fear is that Drier will run for senate
an actually win when Feinsein retires, i hope that if he does Nancy Pelosi will run against him.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 05:28 AM
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95. Isn't he pretty conservative though?
I know CA voted for Arnold, but Arnold is relatively more moderate on issues like abortion, gay rights, and is in favor of gun control.

Plus he was a big name movie star. Would Drier really have a chance?

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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:56 PM
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39. Repugs were destroyed
Maher and Moore tagteamed Owen and Dreir, leaving them sputtering nonsense and repeatedly saying they thought * was masterful. Neither would say however if they would have acted the same way despite being asked exactly that about ten times by Maher who got louder and more incredulous at their weak non responses. Maher and Bush totally mocked Bush for his thirty minutes of helpless impotence at the school.

Nader came on to blow shit at both Kerry and Bush and Moore and Maher dropped to their knees and begged him not to run. Great theatre.

Then Kim Campbell, the former Prime Minister of Canada did a masterful job of telling Nader to not be a spoiler but to galvanize voters and then tell them who best to vote for before November 2. Nader barely had time to rationalize anything about his ill advised run. Great stuff.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:59 PM
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42. What Kim Campbell said
was totally sweet!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:00 PM
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45. Thanks for that synop!
I don't like screaming tv..but I saw the picture..and with you narrating ..I know what happened!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:05 PM
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52. Bill won't allow screaming or talking over one another
you get slapped and then if you persist you are not invited back
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:23 PM
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72. Really? Cause ..that's the way I remember it for the
Politically Incorrect one..and when I tuned in they were screaming at nader..which I know he deserves..so I just muted it.

I'll have to try and catch a rerun and see how it goes.

That would be nice if those were the rules.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:28 PM
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78. i think after the flamefests of PI he hasn't allowed it on the
new HBO show at all. It's very refreshing
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:02 PM
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48. Under the heading of: .More foriegn leaders support Kerry
Drier looked pretty lonely and stupid up there... He'll have to go to Fox™ all next week, now.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:06 PM
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54. Thanks for the summary!
I almost wish I had HBO but not for one show...

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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:59 PM
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43. I see the Republican on the panel bailed quickly....
Apparently couldn't stand the heat.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:12 PM
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64. Left before the show was over.
How rude and Repuke like.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:13 PM
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65. maybe it is because....
he was told the building was under attack and got the hell out of there....if you saw the show you know what I am talking about...haha!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:22 PM
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71. I know!
The building was under attack alright-from the Liberals! Run Congressman Drier, run!
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:59 PM
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44. Honestly, is there any chance Nader drops out at the last minute
? I think he just may and end up endorsing Kerry.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:07 PM
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59. I have a feeling that'll happen
Obviously I have no evidence to back that up, but I can't help but think Nader might end up doing the right thing.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:12 AM
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92. I don't think so. I think he honestly believes repubs will vote for him
He seems completely delusional right now.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:00 PM
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46. Notice that Dreier hauled ass out of there at the end?
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:01 PM by playahata1
Didn't hang around to watch the balloons drop? :evilgrin:
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zuzu98 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:01 PM
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47. Did you notice...
... Drier and Nadir (sic) didn't stick around until the end of the show? LOL
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:02 PM
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49. I liked when Bill asked
the repuke what he would have said had it been Clinton who sat there for 7 minutes! What could he say? Of course he would have supported the decision. What a bunch of shit! And did you notice? He ran away before the end of the show.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:02 PM
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50. great show and did you notice Drier walked off??
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:04 PM by AZDemDist6
he left before the closing monologue cut

he got his butt kicked

edit to add: he learned that from his boss, if you don't like the questions just storm off
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:07 PM
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56. They'll all avoid the show now, I'll bet
They'll say: "Nobody watches HBO....More voters watch Fox news"
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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:09 PM
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61. That was incredible
The only thing that galled me was that it took almost three damn years to have someone on cable express a full measure of scorn and outrage about Bush's non performance on 911. But the Repugs had their face pushed in it tonight and the audience was absolutely egging Maher and Moore on, even booing the raggedy-assed silk purse that Dreier and Owen were trying to make out of the 911 chimp's ear.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:11 PM
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63. I thought....
Moore was somewhat quiet when talking about the 7 minute issue...mainly because he wanted to enjoy watching Drier and that other repub sumbag make themselves look like fools...
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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:21 PM
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70. I did too
I think he wanted to let them get comfortable with repeating seven minutes over and over and then hit them with the twenty minutes he spent screwing the pooch.

Another great spot was when Owen (I think) was trying to make some spin that no one knew exactly what had happened so Bush was waiting for more information. Maher said something like "Then I guess he wasn't needed, huh?" He kept pointing out that Bush was the President,it was his job to do something, find out something and could have excused himself when the nation was under attack but nooooooo. Maher pointed out he was just sitting there listening to kids read, not even reading himself. I have never seen these points hammered home like this before on television. Must see TV. I hope it is available on the web.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:29 PM
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80. Not only that
did anyone catch the part where Gov Owen said Bush knew it was planes hitting not nuclear weapons. (As the reason why Bush didn't get up from My Pet Goat)

Hey you airline travelers the republican party thinks you're all expendable. You guys in high towers-Heads Up.

That part actually hit me in the stomach when Owen said that. I guess sticking up for Bush is more important then letting us serf's die. Finally they showed their cards. Assholes.
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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:36 PM
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84. The Repugs were helpless tonight
I have waited a long time to see that happen, to see them having their inane rationalizations mocked and shredded in front of a hooting audience. Any person with two active brain cells could see that Bush has no cover for his inaction. How the hell he got away with it this long is only due to a completely inert prostrate press corp who censored this video until Moore brought it back. I think thousands more who haven't seen the film will go and see it now.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:24 PM
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73. This was the hardest hitting Maher show
I think Maher has done yet.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:27 PM
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77. I got that feeling..get close to countdown time!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:26 PM
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That's one reason why F9/11 is so important ..it
opens the door for talk just like that }(
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:05 PM
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51. I'm afraid I've already posted this elsewhere,
so it'll probably be moved or deleted, since I've now found a thread where it's appropriate.

The funniest of many funny moments for me during Bill Maher's show was near the end when he said about how few viewers got to see the whole Democratic Convention:

"What does Kerry have to do to get your attention, fuck Omarosa?"
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:06 PM
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55. whois omarosa? n/t
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:07 PM
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57. The kinda psycho woman who was on The Apprentice...
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:18 PM
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66. I need to see it...I want to see it...I gotta see this...please tell me
How I can see this show...I don't have HBO!
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:19 PM
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68. You gotta get HBO
The show is worth it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:18 PM
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67. Don't hate me, but I sort of admire Drier for going on that show.
Every time I see Drier on any of the other shows, he's such an ass, and I never agree with him, but it has to take a lot of guts to go on Mahr's show, and be the only Pub, and get beat up by everybody else. I'm not sad to see it happen, but I don't know of many, if any, other Pubs that would be willing.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:20 PM
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69. now Dreier knows....
how a dem feels when they go on Meet the Whores, Hardball, Scarborough Country, etc...it is pretty rough!
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:26 PM
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75. I know what you mean. I almost felt sorry for him, trying to defend
the indefensible while being a punching bag.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:29 PM
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79. Then drier shouldn't lie to himself...this is way too serious to
feel sorry for any propogaters of bush.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:33 PM
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83. Yup. It's his own damn
fault for supporting a bunch of good for nothing, lying crooks. Unless he's completely delusional, he knows better than anyone what these people ar all about.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:43 PM
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85. You're right, of course (I guess it's the wimp liberal side of me). I
remember Drier from the California recall. He was a creep then, and a creep now. But the guy was taking such an awful beating I was wondering when the ref would jump in and declare it a TKO.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:57 AM
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103. Repukes who defend Bush--either delusional or aiding and abetting
Far too serious. Party loyalty is important, but it is just so fucking obvious that Bush is dangerously incompetent.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:47 AM
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99. He did have some balls to go on there
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 07:49 AM by RatTerrier
Drier has never met a media opportunity he didn't like.

Until last night.

He is constantly making the TV rounds. Probably thought he was going to drive the stake into Michael Moore once and for all.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way.

He had his ass handed to him. Moore did most of the work on this, and the audience (most likely left-leaning political cynics - the crowd that idolizes people like Moore) was very favorable to him. Drier must have been crying when all was said and done. He may or may not have walked off.

In other words, Moore destroyed him and turned him into his personal bitch. Drier didn't do his homework. Maher even tried to pull Moore off, though he himself did go after Drier on a few occasions.

Bill has said he has problems getting conservatives on his show, due to the sometimes hostile environment for righties. It makes "Hardball" look like "Regis and Kelly" to conservatives. Some are brave enough, like Coulter, Issa, and Larry Miller. They have made repeat appearances. Coulter vs. Moore would be one hell of a show.

What's really important is that Drier is a high-up person in the Bush/Cheney campaign. And he couldn't even effectively defend his boss.

Bush: Stick a fork in him.




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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:24 PM
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74. "But would you call me a flip-flopper?"
I loved how Moore kept throwing that line at Dreier.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:31 PM
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82. How about "Would you send your kids?"
Moore was relentless. Dreier finally mumble a quick "Yes."
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DemMother Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:27 PM
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105. As far as I know Dreier doesn't have any kids...
I live in his district. Everyone you talk to in my area of the district (which is one of the few relatively liberal areas) seems to think it's common knowledge that he's gay.

I recently went to a bizarre meeting with his Democratic opponent who is openly gay, where the the subject was brought up--she even said something along the lines of "the pot calling the kettle black."

I have such mixed feelings about outing--except when it comes to hypocrisy. And Dreier, I think, voted for that anti-gay house bill about the courts.

It's just strange that so many people seem to think it's common knowledge, or have a friend of a friend who has been on camping trips with Dreier and know for sure that he's gay.

I'm not sure someone as public as he is would be able to keep it a secret for so long, but I think that, even with hypocrites like Dreier, there is this reluctance to out someone before they're willing to come out. And, as a former Chicagoan, I remember all the rumors about Gov. Jim Thompson and Mayor Mike Bilandic -- there was always a cab driver who claimed to have dropped them off at a gay bar (almost like an urban legend).

So, maybe Dreier is just this unmarried guy and the rumors are unfair and unfounded.

Sorry to get so off the subject...
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:27 PM
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76. who noticed that Maher called or implied that Tweety is racist???
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:30 PM
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81. I guess Bill got the same impression that we got last night
from seeing how tweetyhead treated Al The Man Sharpton!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:45 PM
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86. No "implication there"
Maher told the musician guy in the beginning of the show about Tweety's cutting Sharpton's speech off and commenting that Sharpton "began his career as a criminal", then asked him: "Don't you think this was a racist thing to say?"

That's calling Tweety out for what Tweety is: a racist who made a very racist statement.

Good for Maher. He's come a long way this year. About time he took on these creepazoid right wing Tweetyesqe pundits.

Loved the way everyone ganged up on Dreir, who deserved every verbal punch he got. That slimeball had it coming.
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:23 AM
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102. Maher's.."everyone mistreated Al Sharpton"
was the twisted warp he's always doing. He started with media going crazy,dissing Rev Al --then screwed it around to
"everyone". All the L radio ive heard--AAR, Thom Hartman, Trippiani (Mich.TalkRadio) and much reading, Sharpton got
emphatic and no uncertain praise. The straight arrow was with
hysteria fromthe media mainly CNN-MSNBC..havn't heard
network comml news.

Once Maher sat down with the panel his mind was more honest
--but HE is a major flipper-flopper..to point he sounds dizzied by it. "why do Dem have to build uptheir optimism..it's childish"
;to me, he is c h i l d i s h most of the time. "Thepresident knows I'm with him" echh--Kerry's 'reporting for duty" with the big eye roll of dismissal.

Even Moore opened with a petty punch at Dem/conv. ""first they said "hope is on the way" then it was "help is on the way..did they ever get there?" he says-- they're not mutually exclusive missions-values. Then Moore & Maher did show more maturity
in the panel..& still ironic wit funny.

Even with Drier on mute..I tuned out (it will be in replay plenty in the wks ahead) Drier as Cheney repeats what's been soundly
refuted and flattened! On NO wmd found his stand is "but the intell was there" duuuhh
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 PM
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87. Folks, you have just witnessed 'Bizzaro-FOX'
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 PM by RatTerrier
Great show!

That moron pundit whore wound up picking his ass up off the floor.

Looked scared shitless. I almost felt sorry for him.

NOT!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:53 PM
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88. Kim Campbell is a conservative in Canada
Even Canadian conservatives look like liberals here in the States.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:55 PM
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89. re run,..........anyone know when this reruns
i so wanted to watch. instead had a two hour call from far right brother going thru disney feeding shit, then children with white and black parents, then wanting abstinence in school and no condoms cause the liberals just want to save money from having unwanted kids, to liberals are the wackos of the dem party. WHAT, at that point enough. moron.

so i missed it. anyone know when there is a re run
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:07 AM
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90. It re-runs at 11 p.m. PST on the Left Coast on HBO
nt
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:10 AM
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91. If you have HBOwest it will be on in an hour
at 2am eastern time.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:12 AM
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93. i get dennis miller next on hbo
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 12:21 AM by seabeyond
just not the same
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 06:50 AM
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97. Great Show
They didn' cover a broad range of issues, instead they really dug in deep on a few - which was excellent.

One of the faults of republicans is their complete inability to acknowledge any mistake, any error, any fault. With Drier, he struggled to explain Bush's behavior on 9/11, Owens struggled to explain Bush's behavior on 9/11. The more reasons they gave, the lamer they made Bush look. It is like Ron Reagan said in his esquire article, they lie and fight against admitting an error against their own interest. If they came out right after 9/11 with one straight forward story about why Bush reacted as he did (even one that admitted some fault) it would be a non issue, or an issue that got no traction.

Yet, they try to tell us Bush WAS acting, and things WERE happening, in the face of that footage. Everyone I talk to, I raise this footage - I think it is the most damning part of F911 cuz it is not edited in anyway. I first talk with people about what they did when they heard about the planes, and we re-live those first moments. And then I talk about Bush sitting there for 7 minutes. People react to it -- on a human basis, it makes no sense that he did nothing, never mind that he is commander in chief. That is what gets people, they as humans reacted and did several things in the first 7 minutes. He did nothing.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:05 AM
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98. Does anyone know what he ultimately did say to the class?
Seems to me that since everyone did know it was a national emergency if they knew nothing else, he was going to have to say something presidential and confidence inspiring and make an exit no matter what. It wasn't going to go away if he just sat there. The question, which had not been answered at that time, was the extent of the attack and how much more was to come and that wasn't clear for hours. So what did he say that he couldn't have said as soon as he was told?
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:06 AM
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100. "Then I guess he wasn't needed, huh?"
That about summed it up for me.

bush* is not needed. Kerry is needed. End of game...

I thought Nader was going to cry when Bill and Moore got on their knees and begged him not to run. And the Canadian PM added the smartest thing, about how run and then still be a player. Hope Nader wakes up...

Drier is a wimpy little shit who couldn't take the heat. When Moore said he wasn't some WImpy Dem and would take the bullshit, I was like "HELL YEAH!"

RL
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wish_I_could_vote Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:20 AM
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101. I was actually impressed with Kim Campbell last night
She kicked some serious ass in a classy way. Imagine how the poor repub must have felt with her on the conservative side.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:01 PM
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104. Is this available online?
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