The RIGHTWING started the CLASS warfare... (Bill Moyers)

[LittleApple81]

He is on C-Span 2 right now discussing his book.

He says that the Democrats have gone along with this... but he mentioned the book "What's wrong with Kansas" and explained that poor Americans have been convinced that "moral issues" that REALLY DON'T EXIST IN THE CONTEXT OF A FAIR SOCIETY are more important that their welfare (making them lose even the morality in society which should relate to fairness... (paraphrasing, he is so eloquent!)

[LittleApple81]

1. Talking about Michael Moore... Moyers is against propaganda because

it makes intelligent discourse on important issues impossible... BUT THAT SAID, the rightwing have been using propaganda all the time IT WAS ABOUT TIME THE LIBERALS GOT A VOICE OF THEIR OWN.

[many a good man]

2. And the Democrats have been AWOL !

You gotta give the whole quote.

[gmoney]

3. Program is archived

http://www.booktv.org/ram/feature/0704/btv071804_4.ram

[MissB]

4. The book is What's the matter with Kansas (nt)

[Bozita]

8. by Thomas Frank

imho, this is THE book that best explains the current political landscape.

It is truly priceless.

[Crachet2004]

5. The Democrats get one more chance, but that is it.

They have been slopping at the same corporate trough as the GOP, in order to raise enough money to be re-elected...but that has got to change.

That said, I have reason for hope. John Kerry raised three million dollars in ONE DAY, over the internet, from samll contributions-June 30.

We need further campaign finance reform to further limit corporate influence in BOTH parties, but McCain Feingold seems to be a good start.

And the full power of the "Netroots" has yet to be felt.

[Pallas180]

6. Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."


Benito Mussolini, 1883-1945, Fascist dictator of Italy

[Crachet2004]

9. Absolutely correct...and we need to put a stop to it beginning this...

November. The big industrialists of the day, some of them in THIS country, also supported Hitler. The 'Fuhrer Principle' was that the industrialist should be the patriarch in his shop, as well as his home. My theory is that they built Hitler up to countervail against the Communists...they had a deal, which would explain the flight of Hess to England. He had every reason to believe he would be well-received, as certain elements in the upper class in England were no doubt key in the existence of the Nazi Party in Germany.

This is why everyone should support labor unions, whether you belong to one, or not. We need less restrictive rules on organizing, so we can rein Walmart in, for example. And tax the living shit out of them for being THE WORST slave-employers in Asia.

[ClassWarrior]

7. Note my handle and sig line...

Don't let the RW define the terms of the debate!!