The Cause of all this shit is Newt. It was he that made America weak

[opihimoimoi]

He was the one to be President. Speaker of the House, he was being groomed for the Presidency. All he had to do was play by the rules. He started GoPac and had many followers as a esult. He pulled off a Coup in 94 with the help of Rush Limpballs, and others. He had it all in the bag. But no, something happened on the way to the well.

By being arrogant, obstinate, outspoken, he fucked himself in 96 by attacking Big Dog with the BJ thing....dragged it out for all to see months after it had subsided. He overlooked one basic thig...

Pubs like BJs too.

Thus Clinton was re elected and everyone blamed Newt.

Fast forward to 2000.

No Newt...who ya gonna git? Gary Bauer? McCain? Bush? Well McCain is too smart for the Pub Masters...too much class, cannot be controlled, too much common sense and principles.

Bush was perfect...and now ya know the REST of the SAGA/Story/BullShit/

Come, we go :puke:

[proud patriot]

1. I still have my Stop the Contract on America Button

That was the one protest I went to during the Clinton Years .

[opihimoimoi]

3. The Pubs reniged on the Contract big time...it was one of the main factors

leading to his political demise.

Newt blew it through his own Mouth and misadventures.....like divorcing his wife while she was sick with cancer...some family values there.

The Blow hard is a nerd gone wild....he had it all but blew it...but I feel he woulda been better than the Shrub we got now.

[kentuck]

2. He definitely changed the Repub Party into a more radical Party...

It's not the same Party it was even in Reagan's day...

[shraby]

4. Please read the Plame threads

and you'll find it even goes deeper than Newt..he's just one of the players.

[opihimoimoi]

6. Yes, its gone Ebolaesque.... the Pubs are EVERYWHERE...

Like ground termites(Formosan)...they are hidden from view until your house begins its fatal fall.

[opihimoimoi]

5. Extreme Right Wing he is.....convoluted thinking and mixed up philosophy

leads to looking good but rotten to the core on the inside...

[many a good man]

7. Newt was the one

who made it GOP policy to place power above the national interest. He's gone but the philosophy remains. The GOP is controlled by extremists who are a threat to the well-being of the nation...

[opihimoimoi]

9. Exactly...he was one of the root causes of our mess. But even he

is far better than the damage Bush is causing...

In a sense, Bush is doing us Dems a big favor by being what he is..a dufus. Is this the Best the Pubs can offer? If it is... they are fucked...and now they know it all too well.

[Kanary]

13. "bushwa doing us a favor"

Careful, there, opi...... that kinda talk gets people here running for the tar and feathers. :)

I've said this many times, also........ to people around me here, of course, and not on DU. Even on a message board, I don't care to be blistered. :)

Yes, he's doing us a favor by showing CLEARLY just how rotten their whole belief system is, and what their goal *actually* is. The smarter ones are now seeing it, and the rest...... well, I don't hold out much hope. So, as bad as it is, the longer it goes on, the more people will learn, understand, and finally develop an immunity against. Just the language itself -- people are starting to see through it.

Yes, he's doing us a favor. Like one woman said to me, "If you put a frog in boiling water, it will jump out and save itself. If you put that frog into lukewarm water, and gradually turn up the heat, it'll boil to death." We're actually in much more danger from a regime that gradually gets worse, than we are from one that gets bad quickly. *THAT'S* why you hear many people very uncomfortable with the right-wing of the DEM party. Moving us to the right slowly will get us to the same place, but it will be a lot less noticeable. Hence, we'll boil to death.

But, of course, nobody really wants to hear that. :hi:

Kanary

[opihimoimoi]

14. The BushCo has been exposed as a fraudulent dufus.....

showing many signs of ineptness and arrogance...

Bush is Toast....he might not know it yet... but he is.....

[shraby]

17. Newt isn't gone.

He works or worked on the Defense Policy Board with James Woolsey and Richard Perle (who quit Mar. 2003). It's a 30 member civilian policy board appointed by Douglas Feith.

[Wapsie B]

8. What I can't figure out

is why is McCain shilling for the chimp? After the crap they unloaded on him in '00 he should be hopping mad. Is he trying to stay in the good graces of the party so that he'll be given a legitimate shot in '08?

[opihimoimoi]

10. Pubs demand loyalty... and I suppose its the loyalty thing keeping

him in the loop for whatever reason....Perhaps a contingency thing...in case something happens to Bush/Cheney.... one has to wonder. HMMMMMMmmmmmm

[TreasonousBastard]

11. Good question...

but I suppose it's a combination of party loyalty and some very severe threats about what might happen to him in his next Sentorial election.

I bet the impression his message is "Vote for Bush" (but Kerry is my good buddy, wink,wink)

[opihimoimoi]

12. I suspect many people will vote for Kerry while posing as Bush supporters

They just can't be seen as voting Kerry but deep down...they know Bush is a loser... thus the paradox facing them...what to do, what to do.

[TreasonousBastard]

18. Tough to tell...

what they might do. Politics is so much like religion in that old habits and beliefs die hard.

Perhaps they will vote for Kerry, perhaps they will leave the line blank, perhaps they will just go on instinct and habit and vote for Bush.

Voting is not always as rational as we would like to think it is. Even on our side.

[kodi]

15. Bill Clinton said it best: "They need a divided America, we don't."

and that is what newt and his assclown buddies have to do to win.

[opihimoimoi]

16. Yup, its the ole "divide and conquer thingy"....a little gay marriage

opponents here and a little pro life votes there , etc, and soon they have a pile of chips in their corner...

They are very clever in their divisiveness....

The Misled Sheep, They have not a clue they are being used and abused by their Pub Masters and many continue to cling to the Pub Party Line....only to look very foolish when the facts finally come out...