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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:58 PM
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Fire in the street
Big green dragon goes up in flames!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:59 PM
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1. Cops are now closing up the streets
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:59 PM
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2. what group had the green dragon ?
Do we know?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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4. I don't know...they were at the end of the march
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:59 PM
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3. Yikes.
It looks harmless, honestly, but I'd be happier if it hadn't happened.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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9. My thoughts exactly!
I hope it doesn't shut down the march.
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:01 PM
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14. Same here- that could be the excuse TPTB need
Let's hope they let them continue after the fire is put out.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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5. They were the ones I first saw with faces covered
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM by LizW
and all the umbrellas. I knew it was something not right.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:02 PM
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17. Huh? I have seen umbrellas through the whole protest...
some people just don't want skin cancer.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:09 PM
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50. I saw a whole bunch clumped together right before the fire
and the people under them had cloths and bandanas tied accross their faces.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:14 PM
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59. Assholes! I hope people took photos of them!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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18. These assholes are lucky they didn't burn some kid
Why do people have to do idiotic things like this?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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23. I hope they track it back the Rove and his bunch
I don't think that was anyone who cares, I think it was the one's that want to stop the protests and make them seem out of control.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:16 PM
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66. Yeah, isn't it CONVEEEENIENT that they started the fire near FOX HQ?
They earned their money today!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 06:03 PM
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83. I hope they "actually" investigate the fire and track it back to
the culprits that set it. I would bet that the culprits could be tracked directly to Rove.

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harper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:06 PM
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38. I thought the same thing when I saw that bunch
faces covered and lots of black umbrellas to further shield their faces. Looked up to no good.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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6. C'mon people...
don't fuck this thing up by doing something stupid like starting fires in the street...dammit, don't make all of us look bad
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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7. That's the closest thing to cooked meat, that MacDonalds has ever seen
.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:01 PM
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13. LOL!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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8. uh oh. n/t
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:00 PM
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10. now that was stupid.
what jerk would start a fire in the middle of a perfectly successful march? hmmmm.............
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:04 PM
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A freeper jerk?
Wasn't there some scuttlebutt that freepers were going to try to blend in with the marchers and cause problems?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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42. I bet a freeper or an infiltrator
the march seems very peaceful.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:01 PM
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11. Cops just extinguished the fire...sirens in the background..n/t
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:01 PM
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12. I lit that fire!
Sorry! ;)
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:04 PM
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27. We Didn't Start the Fire
Billy Joel

49 harry truman, doris day, red china, johnnie ray
South pacific, walter winchell, joe dimaggio

’50 joe mccarthy, richard nixon, studebaker, television
North korea, south korea, marilyn monroe

’51 rosenbergs, h-bomb, sugar ray, panmunjom
Brando, the king and I and the catcher in the rye

’52 eisenhower, vaccine, england’s got a new queen
Marciano, liberace, santayana goodbye

Chorus
We didn’t start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world’s been turning
We didn’t start the fire
No we didn’t light it
But we tried to fight it

’53 joseph stalin, malenkov, nasser and prokofiev
Rockefeller, campanella, communist bloc

’54 roy cohn, juan peron, toscanini, dacron
Dien bien phu falls, rock around the clock

’55 einstein, james dean, brooklyn’s got a winning team
Davy crockett, peter pan, elvis presley, disneyland

’56 bardot, budapest, alabama, krushchev
Princess grace, peyton place, trouble in the suez

Chorus

’57 little rock, pasternak, mickey mantle, kerouac
Sputnik, chou en-lai, bridge on the river kwai

’58 lebanon, charles de gaulle, california baseball
Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide

’59 buddy holly, ben hur, space monkey, mafia
Hula hoops, castro, edsel is a no-go

’60 u-2, syngman rhee, payola and kennedy
Chubby checker, psycho, belgians in the congo

Chorus

’61 hemingway, eichmann, stranger in a strange land
Dylan, berlin, bay of pigs invasion

’62 lawrence of arabia, british beatlemania
Ole miss, john glenn, liston beats patterson

’63 pope paul, malcolm x, british politician sex
Jfk, blown away, what else do I have to say

Chorus

’64 - ’89 birth control, ho chi minh, richard nixon back again
Moonshot, woodstock, watergate, punk rock
Begin, reagan, palestine, terror on the airline
Ayatollah’s in iran, russians in afghanistan

Wheel of fortune, sally ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless vets, aids, crack, bernie goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, china’s under martial law
Rock and roller cola wars, I can’t take it anymore

Chorus

We didn’t start the fire
But when we are gone
Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on...


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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:02 PM
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15. I have a feeling something BIG is going to happen this afternoon.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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20. The fire started again...
Wow, think of the dangerous things you could hide in a big green dragon
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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34. Yeah--dragon guts.
;-)
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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Not real big though but suspicious
Scenarios play in my mind the fact these guys wore Middle East scarfs over their faces is telling and meant to misdirect.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:08 PM
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49. My first thought was that dragon was recycled from some
other event...so that makes sense...the plan was to burn it from the beginning.
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Christof Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:02 PM
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16. I wish that fire didn't start.
I hope it doesn't end the march.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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22. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Christof Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:04 PM
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29. Thanks.
:hi:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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30. MSNBC is clueless
as to what the fire is. Area around MSG was where fire was from. Now under control. Saying folks told not to go to Central Park, and people wandering around Harold Square.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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19. funny
Protesters are chanting "Fox News set the fire"

Ha ha
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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31. ha!!!
I know the protestors had been chanting "Fox News Sucks!!" just as the fire broke out... were they still in front of Fox News?
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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21. IT'S COLLAPSING!
It's like 9/11 all over again...
:eyes:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:03 PM
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24. Firemen now on standby with water in their hoses...
Hmmm...I hope they don't use this as an excuse to turn them on protesters.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:04 PM
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25. You should hear MSNBC speculating about the fire. If they want to
know...TURN ON CSPAN!
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:04 PM
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26. hehehe - chants of FOX news set the fire!!
God, this is a great day!!
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:04 PM
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28. Seems like the fire people and police are being cool about it.
Just dealing with the situation. No busting heads.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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32. Did anyone see how it started?
It could have been an accident.

The police were totally cool! Barricaded the area off and finally got in with fire extinguishers. There wasn't even so much as a scuffle that I could see. If this is a sign of how the protests are going to go, it's going to be great. :bounce:

:yourock: NYPD
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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33. How did it start?
Does anybody know how it started?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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35. i feel pretty sure a freeper plant
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM by laruemtt
started it. things were going too well and they couldn't stand it.
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Christof Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:06 PM
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37. I was thinking that too.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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47. is there an end to the march? I saw the dragon but lots of folks after
them..
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:05 PM
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36. NOW Fox News pays attention!
Reporting on the street fire right now- a Fox News Alert!
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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44. ROFL so predictable
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:21 PM
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76. their newsreader, safely ensconced in MSG, says...
It is mayhem on the streets... :eyes:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:06 PM
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39. I wonder who did that?
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 02:09 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Not smart. What if that would have started a huge fire in the buildings? The Dems would have looked REALLY, REALLY BAD.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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45. I know you know this, but I have to say it...
Not everyone there is Democratic. Indeed, some people there hate us as much as they hate Bush.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:10 PM
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52. I know.
:spank: :hi:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:11 PM
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55. Hi back!
:hi:
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:06 PM
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40. shit, I hope they don't try to stop
hundreds of thousands marchers who are determined to protest???? they best not.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:06 PM
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41. Just saw a hilarious sign!!
"NEW YORK NIGHTCLUB VETERANS FOR TRUTH!"

:D
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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43. alex witt from msnbc reported it could have been due to the heat
because its terribly hot today so at least msnbc is being fair while they show smoke billowing

i just heard someone yell on cspan that fox news started the fire! now that i think of it , everything is their fault! haha
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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46. Oh geez... Fox News is making the HUGEST deal about this!
"We need to keep a close eye on these protestors, and find out what they're up to, what else they have planned. They have now created a very dangerous situation."

They also refer to the crowd as "tens of thousands."

:eyes:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:10 PM
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53. "New York's finest can handle it..
They handled the other terrorist attack on 9/11" - Faux news whore just now, comparing the protestors to terrorists.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:08 PM
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48. the dragon, the dragon, the dragons on fire..
we don't need no water
let the motherfucker burn
burn motherfucker burn

It was probably just an accident, folks. Accidents do happen.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:13 PM
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57. Well now they have the WMD search dogs out there
I wonder if there is going to be trouble now.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:10 PM
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51. I love the music nt
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:10 PM
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54. Thank goodness for the drummer keeping the beat!
n/t
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:12 PM
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56. Puff the Magic Dragon
Looked to me like he was accompanying the Nader folks or the umbrella carrying anarchists with the covered faces...but I'd have to rewind the tape to be sure...of course, they were passing a small group of pro-Bush folks in front of the Hotel Pennsylvania...
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:16 PM
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64. Wouldn't surprise me if the RWingers threw the match or the cigarette
that started the fire.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:16 PM
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67. all it takes is one cigarette..
wouldn't surprise me if a bushbot flicked a butt in the direction of the paper dragon.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:18 PM
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72. Let us know what you find on replay!
thanks
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:13 PM
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58. Are people still marching, or are they stopped?
Did the dragon really catch on fire right in front of FOX news? How obvious can the COINTELPRO get?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:16 PM
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69. They were stopped for about 15 minutes
now they ar marching again
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:14 PM
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60. Hooray!! The March has resumed!!!!
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 02:15 PM by VolcanoJen
:D :D :D

Some protestors are now chanting "Peaceful March! Peaceful March!"
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:15 PM
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61. The march continues!
:thumbsup:
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:15 PM
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62. the march is on!
the cops are pretty cool so far!
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:16 PM
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65. Excellenyt cooperation with NYPD!
Thumbs up, NYPD!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:17 PM
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71. yep.. the cops are doing a great job..
I was sitting here waiting for them to make with the mace. Big ups to the NYPD!!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:17 PM
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70. looks as if they're stopped again
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:15 PM
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63. That was handled very well. They're marching again!
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:16 PM
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68. Yea!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:19 PM
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73. anarchists I do believe...
they were all huddled in back of the dragon with black bandannas, hats and umbrellas. I did not think they would be taking their dragon home with them.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:22 PM
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77. They won't stop there.
I just hope they don't ruin the wonderful spirit of this march, and that they save their inevitable playing into Rove's hands (and earning their paychecks, in my opinion), for after this beautiful, peaceful march.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:20 PM
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74. BRAVO NYPD NYFD and PROTESTERS! Way to go!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:20 PM
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75. That turned out as well as could be expected
under the circumstances. Bravo to NYPD and FDNY.

Now for the jerk who set the thing on fire, I hope they have a hot cell on Rikers for him/her.

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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:24 PM
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78. hmmmm....a big *GREEN* dragon......
:o :tinfoilhat:
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:32 PM
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82. that thought did cross my mind. when i first saw the green dragon,
i thought it was strange. hmmmmmmmm.....:tinfoilhat:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:24 PM
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79. I thought you had burned your ham hocks!
:o
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:27 PM
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80. In the last three years we have all marched in our own streets..
Have any of you seen people coverng their faces, hiding like that?
Not me...and then a fire? hmmmmm.
Anyway- Sooooo proud of the people standing up in NYC. NYFD too.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:31 PM
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81. What a kaleidescope of human beings! Watching on c-span is fun.
When they first started back up after the fire, I noticed the Socialist Workers seemed to have lightened up some over the years: their drummer was using a back-beat. Bridging the cultural divide on the left? :silly:

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