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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 05:59 AM
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"GLOBAL TEST" - Invalidating the Shrub's ridiculous response
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 06:06 AM by KzooDem
Important distinction/talking point in clarifying Kerry's "global test" comment about pre-emptive war:

When asked his views on pre-emptive war, Kerry said yes...the President should always have that option to protect America, and offered this caveat:

Kerry: "If you're going to do it, you have to do it in a way that passes the test...passes the global test....where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you're doing what you're doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons."

Bush: "Ahhhhh....sigh....let me, um.......I'm not exactly sure what he means "passing the global test." You,you,you take premptive action if you pass a global test? Um, um...my attitude is you take premptive action in order to protect the American people. That you act to make this country secure."

First of all, Kerry had just SAID the President should have premptive authority to attack to protect the country.

Second, Bush twisted Kerry's answer around in his repsonse to make it sound like Kerry would only take premptive action AFTER the reasoning for the action met this "global test."

The implication...the picture Bush was trying to paint, was one of Kerry running around asking world leaders if it would be okay with them if he attacked anouther country pre-emptively.

The key here is Kerry said you should be able to prove to the world why you DID it...he used the past tense. Kerry didn't say "we need to prove to the world why were going to do it." Any intelligent adult could interpret Kerry's response to mean: Yes, the president should order pre-emptive attacks to protect our country, but we better be damned sure it was for a very good reason, and we had better be able to prove it to the world.

I suspect, however, that the right-wing media whores and the other minions of the media who are just plain stupid to get it are going to latch onto this "global test" thing and distort it more than the Boy King already did.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:05 AM
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1. So far, you're the only one that has mentioned this as a possible...
...talking point for the NeoCons.

IMHO, the NeoCons would be doing the smart thing to walk away from last night's train wreck and act like it never happened.

Additionally, if last night's topic was supposed to be FratBoy's strongest area for debate, they might be smart to find some reason to cancel the last two debates.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:10 AM
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2. I could be wrong. Hell, I hope I am!
But I can just see the pompous ass right-wing spin monkeys like O'Reilly and Hannity going on about "global test" this and "global test" that.
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:15 AM
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3. huh? the Freeps & Cheney were all over the 'Global' test thing last night
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 06:16 AM by democracy eh
it didn't make it into the morning talking points? interesting

maybe they were afraid of what it could lead to

Bush failed the global test, bush failed to take the medical test, bush failed the drug test, bush failed grade nine math test, bush failed his English as a second language tests.

failed the tests of leadership... FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:33 AM
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4. Excellent point. After the fact, he must defend his actions to the world.
Or he will harm our credibility and influence.

Bush has been unable to do this. Kerry wouldn't have a problem doing it, because he wouldn't do something that he couldn't defend to anyone who asked. I like it!
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