Disappointed Bush supporters.

[skypilot]

One thing I find really interesting is that a lot of Bush supporters are somewhat disheartened after his poor performance last night. Some one here posted some of the comments being posted over at FreeRepublic and they are not happy over there. The interesting thing to me is this: what they saw last night is what Bush has been giving us for the past four years and they've been perfectly happy with him. He didn't do anything different last night. It was pretty much Bush as usual. What does it say when the Bush that they've been happy to admire and support all this time doesn't quite measure up, even in their eyes, when he is made to stand a few feet away from John Kerry. It's as though they know that he sucks but they just didn't want the side by side comparison to drive it home to them.

[OKNancy]

1. I think that this is where the fact that Bush is isolated

with sycophant crowds and yes-men all around him has worked to his detriment. His crowds and speeches are all in front of people who are rabid in his favor. He has never been held to a neutral standard.

His few press conferences have been awful....just like the debate.

[Jack from Charlotte]

12. Bush has been on TV 3 times this year.......

last night...... with Russert and in that Press Conference. All three results were the same. He's a moron who can't even talk.

Imus said this morning it was painful to watch him. Said you knew he just couldn't wait until those lights came on signifying, "Time up." Said it was a 90 minute show and Bush only had 30 minutes worth of material.

And remember the Russert Q&A. IT was also...... PAINFUL.... to watch.

[cthrumatrix]

13. he's been coached, scripted and "off limits"...now you know why

[Born Free]

26. he's been coached, scripted and "off limits"...now you know why

This is why they are looking to the next town hall type debates where the people must have their questions approved prior to the event, this way the bush coward can be given a long list of Rove one-liners to show everyone he is back in control. Whenever the bush coward must think on his own he is lost, but he can repeat lines that are drummed into his pea sized brain

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

36. "Town Hall!"

Screened questioners.

They hate us for our freedoms.

[juajen]

44. I thought I read

that they would not be given to the debaters, but that the moderator would know what they were; IOW, no surprises from the audience for the moderator. Who is the moderator, anyway?

[eridani]

30. Yes. It's like being raised in a germ-free environment.

Then when you do run into a bug you get laid completely flat because you have no natural immunity.

[phylny]

48. You got it exactly right!

He probably hasn't heard any criticism, any dissenting thoughts, had to answer any tough questions since he's been elected. He's been insulated in a protective bubble, or he's gotten some notion that he's "President for Life." In any event, his supporters saw the real Bush, and disappointment is inevitable.

[complain jane]

2. Nice! Good point.

[mopaul]

3. SO different from the Gore/bush debates

total slaughter this time. hee hee hee

[Rochambeau]

18. That *.gif rocks !! Excellent !! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

35. Impeccable! One could gaze at it for HOURS!

We are not worthy.

THANKS, MoPaul! It's just the best. :hi:

[shanti]

41. cute avatar!

is that your baby?

[belle]

47. It is truly excellent, that graphic.

[SOS]

4. The media assault

on Kerry was neutralized for the first time.
The two were side by side, without the RW talking heads adding their poison.
In this relief we see that Kerry is a strong, intelligent leader and that Bush is a nervous, angry, uninformed dork.
Beautiful to see.

[Beam Me Up]

5. BUSH IS A DECEPTION and has been from day 1

Your point gets to the heart of the matter. He is only in power because someone PUT him there, not because the American people WANT him there. His maintaining the office of President of the United States has been possible ONLY because the media have been intimidating into NOT revealing who and what he actually is. He truly IS a PUPPET of the extreme right wing. And HE IS NOT THE POWER that is truly effecting the policy decisions of this country. He brings NOTHING to the neo-CON table. The ONLY reason he is where he is is because of his father and his grandfather AND because he projects the 'right' (good-ol-boy) image to capture the imagination of the male working class. He has NOTHING else to offer them.

Cheney, now that man is truly dangerous.

[w4rma]

34. There are folks in the shadows pulling Cheney's strings, imho.

They are the ones who are truly dangerous.

[goclark]

43. And that "they" is Poppy

Have you noticed who is missing from the equation?

George Herbert Walker Bush is pulling Cheney's strings.

The problem as I see it now is that Cheney and Condi were the ones chosen by GHWBush to pull Jr.'s strings. But...

Jr. thinks he is in charge of something. He won't let anyone tell him what to do because his ego is on fire.

Poppy will now have to go into high gear and get Rove to play more dirty tricks until Nov. 2nd.

[shanti]

42. exactly, cheney is a viper

the press really lays off of him if at all possible, at his order. he has an image problem too, but he's so arrogant that he fails to even try to hide it. he's sucking us dry.

[elehhhhna]

6. Convert them by giving them an out-- Mr. Elehhhhna style--

He says "Well they're all full of (whatever) but it's definitely time for a change."

Lets the shamed reeps feel less defensive.

[July]

17. That's more or less what I told my hairdresser yesterday.

After she told me she wasn't sure, gave me "the devil you know," then voiced her concerns about a draft, the environment, and health care, I said, "Bush had his chance and he blew it. I'm going for change." She seemed receptive to further comments about Kerry.

[readmylips]

7. When my repig hub ran out of the room...

just when little bush was answering the first question, I knew little bush was in trouble. My repig hub had better things to do, he ran to the store to buy underwear. I didn't want to make matters worse by telling him he already has two new packages of underway in his closet.

I laughed so hard, I thought I'd die.

Later, he wanted to discuss the debate with me. He seemed mad, like little bush. He yelled out, just what does Kerry bring to the table that's different? I could only say that bush is hated throughout the world and world leaders don't want to cooperate with him, and that does not make us safe. He was really upset and said, those world leaders hate the US. Honey, those world leaders only hate george bush, I said and ran out of the room. He was really steaming because george bush lost to Kerry, but like a typical repig, he faults others.

[skypilot]

8. With all due respect to you and your husband....

...maybe he ran out to buy new underwear because he knew he'd be needing them, if you know what I mean. I'm sure a lot of Bush supporters were ready to crap their pants when they saw how relentlessly awful he was.

[Owlet]

9. So which one of you slept on the couch last night?

:evilgrin:

[SiouxJ]

16. This is it in a nutshell

"I could only say that bush is hated throughout the world and world leaders don't want to cooperate with him, and that does not make us safe."

This is it. We are not safe fighting a GLOBAL war on terror when the world hates us. This is all you need to take away from this debate.

[calimary]

29. Damned straight!

The only other thing Kerry forgot was to answer back to bush's claims that he'd insulted our allies with two words: "Old Europe." But this is SO SO SO true.

[freeminder]

31. being from the land of beer and chocolate,

I can attest that "old europe" still stings like HELL

[serryjw]

22. Bushit....When in OUR history has America been so isolated?

It is a stupid statement that the world's leaders hate us. They NEED us for THEIR defense. What would happen if Al Queda did a major hit on one a member of Nato? Would we not be there to help them.

Truth to Power Bushit is a Puppet. He has been so cloistered from ANY one whom questioned what they were doing. BUYING your own press is a dangerous thing. He has just marched lock step just like all the other minions in the country.

Whether you are in business or the leader of the free world; EVERYONE needs someone to question what we do. WE all have loved ones. Powell who TRIED was castrated for his efforts. he warned Bushit & Co You break it, you own it. F*CK now America owns Iraq and it is going to cost us MORE BILLIONS to fix it!

[belle]

46. Um, you call your own husband a "repig?"

One doesn't really know what to say...

[phylny]

49. Yeouch

My husband is a Republican, too, but I would *never* say "repig" about him.

OTHER Republicans, sure. But not my husband.

[robbedvoter]

10. There was a freeper post: "I stopped watching - went out to pray instead"

Pretty much captures it. Clark mentioned this on The Daily Show.

[skypilot]

11. Maybe I'll take up praying as well.

I'll pray for the scale to continue falling from their eyes. So, they are finally seeing the empty shell of a man that we've all seen. What took them so fucking long?

[napi21]

19. Heard this on the radio last week. Simple but true description!

When facts threaten true believers, they simply close their eyes and pray harder!

Sooo true, I had to write it down!!!

[ogsball]

33. That's what I've been doing when the Chief's play this year. nt

[TexasLady]

14. On a local repug radio show this morning..

Callers came on with all sorts of opinions and excuses..One guy said he hated to admit how good Kerry sounded..the host, Lynn Wooley, said that was the difference between 'us' and 'them'. That they could admit it when things looked grim.

ptttttttttttttt....:P

[skypilot]

15. And things have looked grim...

...for almost four years now. I don't know what kind of alternate universe "they" have been living in but it seems to have started to implode last night. Let's hope it keeps imploding.

[slojim240]

20. Experts in finding counterfiet money don't concentrate on the counterfiet

money. They get to intimately learn what real money looks and feels like. Then they can recognize counterfiet money almost immediately. Such is the case with Bush and Kerry. You was the real money last night in Kerry. Bush is counterfiet. Once you see the real money you can more easily recognize the counterfiet. They may not change their vote for other reasons but they now know the difference.

[wrate]

28. BINGO! n/t

[Sugarbleus]

39. Great analogy!

I'm sure bush didn't want any debates because his handlers and he KNEW the contrast between he and Kerry would be soooo damning.

Bush in 2000 was relatively fresh for his supporters. Bush in 2004, WITH his four year record hanging off him like a cheap suit, and standing next to a real diplomat........is just too stark to be easily ignored.

[K-W]

21. Its because Bush seems to be admitting he lied,

and the right doesnt believe that.

The right thinks the Iraq war was right and is a success, they think Bush has done a steller job on just about everything.

Bush cant run on that however, because most of america sees his mistakes. So the right is wondering why Bush wasn't stronger in challenging Kerry's 'lies', not realizing that they arent lies.

[skygazer]

23. It helps too that Bush is known as a debater

Seeing him flounder so badly had to be a shock to people who expected him to be smooth and jocular. He was bad - I gleefully e-mailed all my freeper relatives this morning with a "Gosh, your guy looked awful last night!" e-mail. Haven't heard back. Hmmm......

[skypilot]

24. When you say known as a debater....

...do you mean "known" as a debater.:) Known by whom? If his supporters expected him to be "smooth and jocular" then they expected him to be a schmoozer not a debater. Although, it's possible that they don't know the difference.

[skygazer]

25. The truth doesn't matter (I'm getting the hang of RW-speak)

What matters is he has a reputation as an "effective debater". I think that really worked against him last night - it's the first time anything other than low expectations have been set for him and he failed miserably.

Of course, it is hard work....

[skypilot]

27. Yes, he works very hard at failing.

Good to know that he's good at something.

[sffreeways]

32. I've never seen him like that before

never.

He's never put in a situation like that. We see him but we don't see him in a setting where he is being confronted. Absolutely never has happened.

We had a few moments early on where he was permitted by Poppy to talk off the cuff and those days ended the night the pretzel attacked him. Or er ah Poppy busted him the face for whatever stupid thing it was he said that day. I recall he made one of his most famous Bushisms right before he appeared with the face beat up.

Since 9/11 we haven't seen Bush so vulnerable to criticism. And it was even worse that he was standing next to John Kerry.

He wasn't prepared. Karen Hughes was written all over that preformance.

They don't know he's this bad because his image has been carefully protected. These republicans see a president but they don't see the man. Last night we all got to see Bush the man not Bush the president or Bush the war president or Bush the untouchable tough guy. His image was shattered last night. Devestated.

[progressivebydesign]

37. They've had to face reality of what they chose... like a bad one nighter.

.. and what they support. He's been so shielded by Rove and Cheney, that it's inevitable he'd be a shock to these people. They don't freakin' know him!!! The Bush people tried so hard to control this event, really damage control, and they could only do so much. Reality is a bitch.. for many republicans, it was like picking up someone, really bad, after the bars close, and seeing "IT" the next morning in bed next to them. The republicans are trying to decide whether to chew their arm off, or wake that thing up and tell it to go back to Crawford!

[LoZoccolo]

38. Matter fact, I think he's done /worse/ before.

I think about that one press conference where he said he couldn't name his biggest mistake. It wasn't just that though; that whole press conference was like whoah.

[mitchum]

40. They have no one to blame but themselves

They should register their disappointment by staying home on election day

[tom_paine]

45. Yep. Funny, isn't it?