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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:44 AM
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What if * was in office during some other point in history?
It's pretty bad now, but come to think of it, I guess it could be worse. Imagine if that imbecilic monkey was squatting in the White House during the:

-Cuban Missle Crisis
-Great Depression
-Civil War

what would be the result in those cases? Man, I hope thinking about this doesn't give me nightmares.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:48 AM
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1. worse yet: WW 2. nt
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:24 AM
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7. We'd all be eating strudel
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:06 AM
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11. i wouldnt be existing to eat strudel. nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:54 AM
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2. The Cuban Missile Crisis is what I always think about
when I consider what the consequences of a presidential fuck-up could be. Maybe that's because I remember sitting in a classroom that October as we were talking about what was going on, and wondering whether we were gonna have to do the duck-and-cover thing for real. You know, put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

There is no doubt in my mind that if El Chimpo had been the president then, we wouldn't be here now to have this discussion.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:19 AM
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6. My dad was stationed in N Germany then,
and I remember the base being locked down. We went out into the country for a three-day vacation. I was only 10, and didn't know it was because if shit happened, the base would be nuked.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:37 AM
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8. I said that several times
If chimpy was president during the Cuban mixxle crisis the world might have never seen 1963. But that would have been okay. shrub is a man of action and that's what counts <sarcasm>.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:55 AM
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3. I've often thought Thank God we didn't have this cowboy
in 62. Now I think JFK gifted me with 40 more years to live. If Chimpy had be in I'd be :nuke:
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:23 AM
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5. Bush is no cowboy.
He can't even ride a horse without falling off. He is like Limpbaugh who can't have sex without it falling out.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:19 AM
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4. Try these
Cuban Missile Crisis: He'd listen to LeMay, bomb the crap out of the island, try an invasion and spark thermonuclear war. Glitches here and there would probably allow the human race to survive, and U.S. hegemony over the Americas would definitely continue; Europe, on the other hand, would be a toss-up, and the world would be a complete mess.

The Great Depression: He'd fuck the unions, guarantee the rich, maintain martial law over the bloody unrest, and usher in an era of mercantile monarchism much like what they're trying to sneak through today.

The Civil War: He'd ignore the Scott plan, try to whup the South frontally, and get his ass kicked good and proper. Mercifully, the haughty disarray of the Confederacy would keep them from exploiting the newfound opportunities, and it would bog down into a period of attrition and stasis. Mysteriously, he'd die in mid-1864, and his successor, backed by New York Republican corporate interests, would prosecute the war with renewed vigor. Understanding business as they do, this new administration would rediscover the Scott plan, strangle the south, and the war would end somewhere around 1870 with the Union triumphant.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:41 AM
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10. Civil War ...

I dunno. I kinda think Shrub would have been more like Buchanan.

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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:59 PM
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13. A civil war era G.W. Bush
Would probably have been with the CSA. He is from Texas.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:40 AM
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9. Missile Crisis ...

I said in a thread earlier tonight that one of things I took away from the debate last night, when I allow myself to think about it, is the horrid fear of what might have happened had Bush been in charge during the missile crisis. I likely never would have been born.

Shrub would have gone with the LeMay advice all the way, and that would be that.

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:37 PM
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12. Cuban Missile Crisis
would be a disaster for Bush

Depression would be awful too.

Civil War I think he'd do well though. In the Civil War, the federals performed pretty poorly for a long time and most observers thought the Confederacy would achieve its independance. However the CSA did not have the staying power to fight such a brutal war forever. They would run out of men eventually.

For the union, victory didn't depend on fighting a smart war, just a long war.

Lincoln was able to absorb debacle after debacle, pick bas choices after bad choices to run his armies, and keep the war going.

When the draft riots came, he brutally suppressed them. If a newspaper was too critical, he closed them down. When the Maryland legislature called a meeting to talk secession, he had them arrested.

Lincoln told his cabinet he'd likely lose his reelection effort, but then just months before the election, the tide turned. Sheridan burned down the Shenandoah Valley so not a crow could fly across it. This robbed Lee's army of his closest food supply. Then Atlanta fell to Sherman and he made Georgia howl.

Confederate resistance, began to crumble and Lincoln won his reelection easily. Of 1 million white men able to carry arms in the Confederacy, 250,000 died and 250,000 were seriously wounded by the time the war ended.

Lincoln took 350,000 of his own men killed and more wounded, but he won because he kept the nation fighting even at the incredible costs.

I think Bush would have been a pretty good fit for Lincoln's spot.

No matter how many disasters and wrong decisions, we go on until the other side runs out of men to stand in front of us.
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