Like FDR hid his polio, w is hiding his severe mental psychosis

[mopaul]

in 72 he hid from his REQUIRED physical exam because his system was drowning in cocaine and whiskey. that's most likely why he's hiding now from his REQUIRED physical exam. he's still a heavy boozer, and while he's not on cocaine, he's definitely on a variety of prescribed psychotropic medications, like dear old elvis.

he thought being pres would be a breeze, all handled by his daddy's servants, but it's wearing on his tiny brain big time. and it's being hidden from us, because after all, how would the public react knowing that the man who's finger is on the button, is a total raving pill popping hallucinating deranged unstable maniac?

FDR had his reasons for hiding his crippling disease i guess, maybe he thought it would cripple america's resolve to know it. maybe he should have been straightforward about it, who's to say?

but w's severe mental illness and the numerous drugs he's taking to calm him down, and relax him and keep him going full time on the campaign trail, and to fight depression should not be hidden from us.

it's a cover up. it's a scandal. it's a national emergency. the president is unstable, won't admit it, and neither will his controllers. it's too bizarre even for a hollywood sci-fi screenplay. it's unbelievable. and it's true.

[daveskilt]

1. not that I dont think you're right but ......proof?

[mopaul]

2. proof would be the REQUIRED physical exam that he's ducking

till after the election. but that's out of our hands apparently

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

27. Not to nitpick but...

I've never been tested for psychosis at a physical.

[Terran]

52. If he took the exam,

do you really think we would get all the details of the results? Of course not. No matter what was discovered, it would be kept secret. And anyway, a physical exam isn't going to uncover his extensive mental problems.

[lil-petunia]

3. Hey, it's HARD WORK being pres.

Really HARD WORK. Do you know how much HARD WORK it takes to invade terra-ists? Do you unnersand how much HARD WORK it takes to prevent Saddam from getting nucular arms and legs?

Maxed missages, that is who the opponent is sending.

[mopaul]

4. the murkin peeper need ta know it's hard ta prvent saddam i mean osama

from attackin us again like killers and it's it's it's it's it's uh uh uh uh------------------it's hard

[lil-petunia]

5. oh, ah, erh, ahhh, ah oh, erh, ahhhhhh. hmmm, ah, oh.

I saw that video on crosstalk last night. what a HOOOT!

[indepat]

48. A total raving pill popping hallucinating deranged unstable maniac?

What a mouthful: For the sake of the world, hopefully you are wrong or have overstated your case at least a wee tad.

[T Bone]

31. no shit sherlock

and since the work is SO har he spends 40% of his residency ON VACATION. Be sure to see post#30 in this thread !!! All his facial movements are THIS.

[stellanoir]

6. for proof

go to amazon and look up "Bush on the Couch." It's by a shrink.

[Obamarama]

7. Isn't it REQUIRED that presidential candidates HAVE to have an exam?

I've not kept up on this issue, but am increasingly dismayed as I hear more discussion about it. Isn't it REQUIRED? Or does it not apply to an incumbent president going to re-election (not that Bush was ever elected)?

If this was a Democrat president ducking his exam until post-election it would be at the top of the newscast and the top of the fold of every major newspaper in the country.

I know it was Hollywood, but they covered this in The West Wing when the rumors about President Bartlett's MS started leaking out. There was a media FRENZY over it. Again, I know it was a fictionalized Hollywood portrayal, but why oh why can't life imitate art in this instance??

[AngryOldDem]

29. Don't know if its required of candidates....

...but I'm fairly certain presidents have to have a routine physical once a year.

[Pepperbelly]

33. required by whom? not in constitution and it sets out the requirements nt

[Cats Against Frist]

8. You forgot to mention he thinks he's appointed by God

[Stew225]

9. Yo, Mo, as someone who has had far too much

experience with mental illness (family), I agree with you wholeheartedly.

The stigma attached to this debilitating disease is such that many people do all they can to hide it. That is understandable if you're Joe or Janie Sixpack. However, as you point out, someone with his finger familiar with the button should, uh, have his head examined.

Isn't it astounding that something this globally far-reaching and precarious is able to be covered up?

[90-percent]

10. FDR polio vs. Bush mental illness

The entire US Press Corps is covering up this horrific state of Bush's blown mind even better than they covered up FDR's polio back in the 1940's!!!!!

Facism Rocks!!!!

-85% Jimmy

[liberalitch]

11. He really IS a chimp....

that's what he's hiding

[Ilsa]

12. I missed this story...

Has Bubble Boy Bush skipped another required physical? Is there a link?

[mopaul]

15. here's his last exam......

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010804-2.html
looking for how often it's required to take the exam

his last exam clearly states he's not drinking or taking any medications

[mairceridwen]

17. good link

I wonder how much can happen in three years

[barb162]

18. there's no law or regulation I know about requiring an exam

[Ilsa]

22. Thanks for the link. He should have had a

follow-up colonoscopy because of his history of benign colonic adenomas. Looks like he put it off. I wonder if he'd admit to using alcohol again.

[goclark]

45. LOL - reason for ear piece

snip > "Mild high frequency hearing loss"

Don't think that would require a hearing aid but they may just spin it that way.

[mairceridwen]

13. sam seder

calling upon his credentials as a professional comedian who spend a year in law school talked on Majority report the other night about why he thinks that Bush has korsakov syndrome. i was convinced

[Richard D]

14. A shruddering thought

I wonder if their plan is to wait till after the elections and then get * his exam. He fails it miserably, resigns, and then they want Pres cheney. God, I just lost all desire to eat my breakfast. Thank God this won't happen.

[Ironpost]

20. Oh shit I hope this don't happen

[mairceridwen]

16. check it out

http://health.yahoo.com/health/ency/adam/000771

symptom's include:

Vision changes

Double vision

Eye movements abnormalities

Eyelid drooping

Loss of muscle coordination

Unsteady, uncoordinated walking

Loss of memory, can be profound

Inability to form new memories

Confabulation (making up stories to explain behavior that have little relation to reality)

[barb162]

19. this doesn't explain the antisocial tendencies

it's his cruelty, lack of empathy, antisocial behavior that's the problem. His sneering and arrogance are just a few manifestations of his sociopathic nature.

[mairceridwen]

28. true

the korsokoff stuff only gets at one aspect.

there was another article that did a fantastic analysis of his antisocial tendencies and then another, on the radio I think, that went through and showed how, when it comes to anything that requires even a modicom of empathy he can't even get the words out.

[SoCalDem]

37. Those are inate.. He's always HAD them

:)

[barb162]

40. his mommy and daddy trained him that way

from the day he was born. Ol'Bar is a big antisocial personality type

[Skittles]

21. he isn't hiding it very well

nt

[KG]

23. heck anyone with a work brain can see he's a willfully ignorant sociopath

i could tell the first time i heard the man speak 4 years ago.

[realFedUp]

24. Indeed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=945952&mesg_id=945952

[Clobbersaurus]

25. Article says Bush had physical in 2003.

Hi, this is my first time posting, but have been periodically
lurking around DU since inauguration of *.

Here's the link to the Aug 2003 article re: Bush's annual
physical:

http://www.dcmilitary.com/navy/journal/8_31/local_news/24494-1.html

It gives none of the details provided in the 2001 examination
press release.  Hope it's somewhat helpful...

[mopaul]

26. thanks. so if it was done last year on aug. 7th, he's about 2 months late

for his annual exam. hhhmmmmmm maybe he still thinks he's in the texas air national guard

.......and welcome clobbersaurus

[newyawker99]

35. Hi Clobbersaurus!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Clobbersaurus]

39. Thanks!

Good to be here!

[T Bone]

30. here is part of the clue train, boooaarrdd !

Tardive Dyskinesia is a side effect of taking antipsychotic / neuroleptics drugs. Symptoms can be hardly noticeable or profound. Symptoms involve uncontrollable movement of various body parts, including the body trunk, legs, arms, fingers, mouth, lips, or tongue. Once any symptom of Tardive Dyskinesia appear, the antipsychotic / neuroleptic must be discontinued.

http://www.psyweb.com/Diction/tardived.html

http://www.psyweb.com/Drughtm/otherdrug.html

[genius]

32. He looked really ill in the debate

34. Love the toilet graphic--n/t

[Disturbed]

38. Brain Damage

"At one point during a staff conference, the President stood up and began to speak in an unknown language. Mr. Rove was able to stop the President and get him to resume his seat. It was reported by that for a period of time (about fifteen minutes) after this incident, the President appeared to be 'somewhat confused and very inarticulate.'"

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a887.htm#001

Woodward also stated this in his latest book. Pres. Bush began to speak in an unknown language. Then he started speaking Enlish again and didn't appear to have been aware of the episode.

It seems that 99.99% of the Media have been ordered not to mention this topic.

[crickets]

41. I don't know which disturbs me more...

"At some time in the past, according to both {redacted} and {redacted} the President suffered what one of his aides called "a very minor seizure" and as a result of this, the President has a very difficult time following any unscripted conversations... "{Redacted} has told us that Bush is irrationally fearful of a terrorist attack (as is Cheney) and like Cheney, spends a lot of his time in the White House underground air raid bunker, built years before during the Cold War."

or

"There are daily parades of born-agains into the White House, all chanting the praises of the Lord and Bush, in that order of course. Most of them want all abortionists hung along with gays (the Beltway and the Pentagon would be empty) and godless Muslims and Buddhists. Orwell would have loved this place! Yesterday {redacted} told me in strict confidence of course, that if Diebold didn’t reelect George, the Lord would. They all wear miniature US flags on their clothes but under the lapels they have "hidden tokens of the True Faith" and they flip their lapels with knowing smiles when they meet another True Believer."

Hokey smoke, Bullwinkle. :scared:

[vogonity]

49. The "unknown language" incident was reported by Woodward?

I am not doubting you, but I definitely would have remembered if I had seen it before.

[RamboLiberal]

36. Extensive NYT Article on Kerry's health - Kerry allowing his docs to talk

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/politics/campaign/03h...

Senator John Kerry, a lean athlete who is the picture of health as he skis, skates, cycles and windsurfs, is in robust condition, he and his doctors said in their first extended interviews discussing his medical history.

<snip>

The likelihood that he is going to have a significant problem with this cancer is infinitesimally small," said Dr. Patrick C. Walsh, the Johns Hopkins University urologist who performed the operation. The five-year death rate for the kind of prostate cancer that Mr. Kerry developed is virtually zero.

<snip>

However, CT scan X-rays taken at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston document that two pieces of metal shrapnel are embedded deep in Mr. Kerry's left thigh, next to the femur, said Dr. Gerald J. Doyle, Mr. Kerry's personal physician in Boston who reviewed the X-rays at the request of this reporter, who is a physician. Doctors treating the wound in 1969 decided to leave the shrapnel in place. "One piece of shrapnel is about the size of a bullet, the other a bit smaller," Dr. Doyle said.

<snip>

Mr. Kerry has colonoscopies every three years because of polyps that were detected in 1985 and 1993. None were found on his last colonoscopy two years ago. He has tested negative for H.I.V., and has never been in trouble with the law for drug or alcohol abuse.

Is this a challenge from Kerry to *? I bet the Kerry campaign has more extensive knowledge of the rumors about *'s mental health and possible drinking than we do.

[Art_from_Ark]

43. Shrapnel embedded in his thigh?

Wow. To hear the "Purple Heart Bandage Bozos" tell it, that only qualifies as a "scratch"

[WLKjr]

42. FDR did it for the good of the Nation at the time

and to not let our enemys at that time see that he was weak and ailing......plus it helped moral here at home. Being crippled is one thing, being borderline........well maybe just plain retarded is a different story when you have the football if you know what I mean.

that's just my 2 cents

[shimmergal]

47. Actually, FDR's disability wasn't a complete secret.

Giving away my age here, but I was a little kid during WWII and I remember my parents talking about how the President had had polio and was crippled. Perhaps the extent of his disability was covered up, but the basic fact was known, and even used in polio-awareness campaigns.

[Bridget Burke]

57. My mother said everybody knew FDR had polio.

She was a young woman when he was president. He vacationed at Warm Springs--for his health. But the media did not picture him in a wheelchair--or struggling in any way.

The decline in his health toward the end of his third term--& when he was running for his fourth--was the real health secret.

[crickets]

44. Hmmm

On second thought, after re-reading this:

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a887.htm#001

If the descriptions are true, they are more chilling than my apparently feeble imagination painted the scenario. Given Cheney's opportunistic tendencies, I wonder. I wonder. Maybe it's not the coke and booze after all. Maybe a little birdie is spiking the meds. Or the coffee. Or the kool-aid religion, with a little help...

:shrug:

[realFedUp]

46. for those who missed this conversation...n/t

[patricia92243]

50. Usually mentally ill people don't realize they are sick.

[gordianot]

51. You are correct.

No one knows for sure how severe.

[chookie]

53. Forget FDR: let's talk Nixon

Yes, FDR suffered from polio, but it never impacted his presidency.

JFK had a multitude of serious health problems, which were also kept private.

Nixon was under the care of a psychiatrist during his Presidency, but not for psychosis, but for symptoms of exhaustion....

But it has also been recently revealed that Nixon may have experienced bouts of chemically induced psychosis. Already highly susceptible to small amounts of alcohol, he was also taking large amounts of the drug Dilaudid -- often mixing it with alcohol at night. He was frequently incoherent at night. It can also produce very poor judgement, impulsivity, and episodes of psychosis.

It was known throughout his staff, and on a Need to Know basis, that he was periodically psychotic. Both Henry Kissinger and his Chief of Staff had an agreement with the Joint Chief to always contact them if Nixon ever ordered an attack on anyone, just to confirm it, and to make sure Nixon did not do anything totally nuts.

Kissinger wrote of being called on several occasions in the middle of the night and ordered by Nixon to bomb so and so, and Kissinger would reply, "Yes, Mr President, right away", only to roll over and go back to sleep. Nixon was usually too drunk to remember this shit, but at least on one occasion approached Kissinger in a very red-faced fashion asking, "Uh, Henry, you really didn't do anything, did you?"

Nice to know we had these failsafes in place back during the Nixon era -- sadly, EVERYONE is fucking nuts in the Bush administration and all bets are off.

The topic of the mental health of the Bush adminstration is a rich one -- there's a PhD thesis in there, to be sure. This really seems to be an age of insanity.

[gordianot]

54. Ever wonder what rock Alexander Haig crawled out from under?

[Disturbed]

55. unknown language" incident was reported by Woodward

I heard Woodward say this on Larry King. I haven't read Woodward's latest book. If anyone has, is that episode recounted in that book?

[crickets]

56. The rock marked

"I'm in charge here"? :evilgrin: