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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:41 AM
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Poll question: Everything else aside, do you find Bush to be personally "LIKABLE"?
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 11:49 AM by UdoKier
Politics, competence, etc. aside, do you find Bush to be personally "LIKABLE"?

Personally, I just don't see it.
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:44 AM
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1. you forgot to include EVIL.
He seems very charming and charismatic at times.. but I'm sure Satan does too.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:46 AM
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3. That's the funny thing - I've NEVER detected ANY charm or charisma.
A lot of other people see it. I NEVER detected anything likable about him.
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:45 AM
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2. Why sure!
I also like roadkill, trips to the dentist, and dirty diapers strapped to my head.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:47 AM
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4. The one and only time he's come off as remotely likable
was, of all things, at the Clinton portrait unveiling. He seemed almost human.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:49 AM
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5. this "likeable" thing is bull
he's not charming or interesting, or articulate or funny. he's completely unlikeable.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:56 PM
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44. Disingenuous and target for projection. Redneck Horatio Alger
fans who don't know about his cheerleading past see themselves in him.

I didn't watch the debates, I can't stand him so much. I read the transcripts.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:49 AM
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6. No, I intensely dislike
the anti intellectual attitude he displays, whereas I'm all about the intellect, baby.

So the good ole boy routine makes me want to pass him right by.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:09 PM
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11. My feelings, too
Bush does not strike me as stupid, but he is an intellectually lazy SOB. This down home, "plain spoken" clap trap may have had some merit in the wild wild west but even then I suspect our presidents were considerably more well versed in history and current events than Bush.

I find a man much more "likable" when he stretches himself intellectually and continues to push his limits. Bush absobes knowledge like a piece of granite absorbs water. It's not appealing.

I don't even think he's cute.

MzPip
:dem:
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:56 AM
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7. It's more than that
He is the epitome of every single person I have ever hated in my life--boss, cop, frat boy, jock, the worst of American authoritarian gang-rape culture.
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Clobbersaurus Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:56 AM
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8. C'mon now guys... he has quite a charming way of...
combining ignorance, arrogance, bigotry, psychotic tendencies, and self delusion into an incredible potpourri of facism that is the model of success of young neo-cons worldwide. A true inspiration.

But seriously... I'd rather spend an hour locked in a trunk with a rabid wolverine than 5 minutes in the same room as that man.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:13 PM
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29. hilareous... choose your weasel! I'll take the one in the trunk
I can't detect anything likeable about the fraud. Like so many other Rovian lies, this one gains its credence through being told so many times.

A piquant zest for militarism combined with a careless disregard for the rule of law, draped in the flag, drizzled in quagmire - that's what the style-conscious neo-fascist is wearing.

:hi:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:59 AM
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9. He a spoiled necrotic scumbag. I'd rather spend time with Charles Manson
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:02 PM
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10. Me neither...
he's the guy you see in a bar getting drunker and louder and daring you not to be his friend. But you see no reason to be his friend.

When the fight starts, he'll be in the middle of it, even if he's just trying to duck out of the way. He might, though, try to recover his manhood by clocking someone from behind with a 2x4.





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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:13 PM
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12. Indubitably! But, then, I *like* venomous vipers...... ^_^
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:18 PM
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13. Not even remotely
In fact, until the debates, I didn't pick up on how strong his creep vibes actually were, I mean I KNEW he was a murderous thug and all that. But I have a finely honed sense of the creepy human vibe (for lack of a better word) I would cross the street to avoid him even I didn't know what complete sociopath he is
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MS68 Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:21 PM
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14. Yeah...what everybody else said
I also find it disconcerting that a guy that comes from a wealthy family never had enough interest in the rest of the world to visit a foreign country before he became president. Scary!

I also don't want a president that I would feel comfortable "having a beer with". I want a president that is smarter, more educated and more articulate than myself. I want to know that he will represent our country well out in the world and make brilliant decisions.

Did you see the footage of him meeting with the Pope? I've never seen two people look more uncomfortable in my life than he and Laura did. You can't even put a dignified, engaged expression on your face at least for the sake of the cameras when you're meeting with the pope?

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:24 PM
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15. No, not even a little bit, even when he smiles it's out of meanness
and usually at someone else's expense. He's a sociopath through and through and while some of them have a glib surface charm, I don't see one bit of it in him.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:27 PM
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16. I find
my dog "LIKABLE" but he would not make a good president. But I would still bet he could kick smirks ass in a one on one debate.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:33 PM
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17. For the life of me, I can never understand this claim.
I don't understand why anyone would find him "likeable".

I'd much rather 'have a beer' with someone who's intelligent and compassionate; someone who lives life with a sense of passion and purpose, who genuinely wants to leave this earth a better place than he inherited it. NONE of these traits can be attributed to GW Bush*.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:11 PM
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18. Sure, if you're a complete idiot
or you happen to like criminals.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:26 PM
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19. he is a fucking jerk
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:34 PM
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20. I've run across more likable cockroaches.
Not to mention more intelligent ones.

His "charm" is the same kind that Reagan had. Just one of the plain spoken, down to earth, macho, cowboy, ordinary, folksy, have a beer, family oriented, church going, common people, icons.

Trans: A brainless nitwit powered by money and greed and to hell with everyone else.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:32 PM
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21. I disagree on Reagan.
I disliked everything Reagan ever did, policy-wise, but I think Reagan's charm was real, and genuine. I couldn't help but like him myself. I nver voted for him (I couldn't vote until 1988) and I wouldn't have, but I can understand why even democrats were won over by him. He was a nice man who bought into a very flawed ideology, and in the second half of his term, hobbled mentally by Alzheimer's. increasingly relied on Bush sr. to run things

With Dubya, it all strikes me as very artificial. I don't think he likes people, or cares about people, or has any empathy with people.

Reagan did. Remember the story of the woman who wrote to Reagan because his budget cuts were going to make her lose her home? He sent her $1000 check of his own money.

I think that story is a good illustration of both his empathy on the one hand, and his cluelessness about what he was doing to people with his policies.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:56 PM
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27. I don't think bush* even likes himself
let alone other people. I hope Kerry beats him badly in the election. That would finish off bush* mentally and he deserves it.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:53 PM
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43. A charming pschopath.
He was "clueless" because he didn't pay attention, or was too stupid to pay attention.

Gee, he bailed out one woman! How sweet. Of course the thousands who also lost their homes got zippee-dee-do-dah from the nice old guy except the boot.

I don't give a rat's ass how "nice" and "empathetic" the old fool was, he was a lousy president.

Hell, LBJ was a nice guy and truly empathetic towards the people he tried to help. But, then there's the matter of 3 million dead Vietnamese..

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:39 AM
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49. You make my point for me. LBJ was deeply flawed, Reagan moreso.
But on some level, they bother showed hints of humanity, and I believe they both believed that what they were doing is right.

Bush constantly claims that everything he does is righteous, but I don't sense that he's put much thought into whether it actually is or not at all.

And the few hints of "compassion" Bush has shown were for photo ops and were transparent and insincere as hell. And I agree that Reagan was a lousy president. But I would trade Bush for Reagan OR LBJ any day.

They were leaders. The resolute, christian, sincere person the right-wingers all follow blindly is nothing but a Rove-GOP construct. He doesn't exist. The real Bush is a petulant man-child. That's why there are constantly "insiders" coming out with books insisting that "the Bush you see on TV is exactly how he ius behind the scenes. He and Laura are always so gracious, etc.". I don't think they'd be so desparate to convince everybody that the cardboard cutout is real if it wasn't very obviously FAKE.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:40 PM
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22. You forgot... utterly stupid.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:42 PM
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23. not to be too dramatic
but when i watch him on tv look into his eyes, there is an emptiness about him...he creeps me big time.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:37 PM
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31. you mean his charming CHARLIE MANSON EYES!?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:46 PM
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24. No he is an arrogant smug delusional self important shit
A major phony & insecure pathological Liar.
With some sort of short man syndrome where he has to constantly show how
tough he is. When in reality he is a spoiled effeminate
son of wealth.



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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:47 PM
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34. Wwweeelllllllllll...Put!
LOL

--IMM:headbang:
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:26 AM
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46. Cheers
:toast:
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:53 PM
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25. I cannot think of a single redeeming quality the man has
He embodies the polar opposite of everything I stand for. From gloating about executing people as Texas governor, to his need to overrun anything with less money than him, there is little to be desired from Shrub.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:54 PM
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26. He's an arrogant jerk
who only thinks about himself.

Remember when Laura criticized a speech he gave when he ran for Congress, he drove the car straight through the garage wall?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:57 PM
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28. No, I dislike him because he's a regular guy in the worst sense
He represents the willfully ignorant, chronically angry, overly competitive, xenophobic underside of American culture.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 05:42 PM
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30. How can you like someone you can't trust?
--IMM
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:40 PM
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32. F*CK NO!
I don't see it, either.

He's an asshole.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:41 PM
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33. John Wayne Gacey was nice.....until that is...he got you in his basement
He was a birthday clown and was very proud of the picture he had of himself shaking hands with Ronald Reagun.

RC
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 06:59 PM
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35. w is a phony..
a Sociopath. He is about as likeable as a scorpion.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:27 AM
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48. Killer clown one twisted individual
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Tangledog Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:31 PM
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36. Did you ever work in a company...
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 07:32 PM by Tangledog
...that employed more than 40 people?

If so, there was somebody there who had a high-level job with a vague description, held consultations with people who were fired a couple of weeks later, and tended to get politely but noticeably in your face about "team spirit" and "everybody's got to chip in and shape up" and "can-do people".

Every worker bee in the joint, including you, spent 2 hours a day emailing resumes to everybody this side of Jesus. But you may or may not have ever gotten around to identifying this person as one of the main reasons you hated that job so much.

On edit: damn, I hate it when I leave out the crucial noun in a sentence that's already too long!

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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:36 PM
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37. I find him profoundly detestable.
I could say a whole lot more, but I'm polite.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:38 PM
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38. NO. If he weren't so dangerous, I'd pity him.
But since he and his right-wing cronies have dragged this country down into the sewer, and now are knocking on hell's door with our collective future (all in the name of profit), I find him **thoroughly** unlikeable, and utterly detestable.

From his mock piousness, to his blind stubbornness, to his barely closeted cruelty, I dislike that man intensely.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:44 PM
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39. I checked Other because even the longest list was incomplete.
I have always found him to be a craven type. He had a "cringe" thing going in the first debate with Gore that reminded me of some smart ass kid who knows he's in trouble and is waiting to get smacked. Now apparently the "cringe" has turned into petulant impatient Boy King behavior.
As George Carlin put it so brilliantly last night on Bill Mahr (sp?)when he was asked why W looked so pissed: "Because somebody finally stood up to the little oil pimp."
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:46 PM
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40. He's a war criminal too.
:thumbsdown:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:47 PM
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41. I've never understood that "likeable" thing with him -m
he's always seemed self-absorbed and petty to me.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:56 PM
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42. He's "likeable". So's my cat. I wouldn't want it running a country.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:12 AM
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45. I'M the kind of person you'd want a beer with...not that putz
He grossed me out the first time I ever layed eyes on him. He throws of some really bad vibes.......

I wouldn't share an elevator with him. :puke:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:26 AM
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47. He's almost as 'likable' as crotch rot.
:shrug: Well, not really. I just thought I'd try to be as complementary as I could.
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