Can anyone see Bush winning the next debate?

[jn2375]

What possible could he talk about on domestic issues.

[coloradodem2005]

1. I could not see him winning the next debate at all.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the next debate a town hall format? If that is the case, he is really screwed. Especially if somebody gets confrontational with him during Q&A.

[Erika]

7. Kerry Will Wipe Him Out On Domestic Issues.

W doesn't realize that not all will profit from the transference of our taxes to the world corporate globalists. He has no knowledge of what is actually happening in this country and he could care less.

[charlie]

8. Actually

this is his one chance to do well. He'll get to mingle, do his aw-shucks schtick, grope and gladhand -- all that charming phony common-guy stuff the idiots love. The pinhead pundits will be rating this debate almost exclusively on style.

[barb162]

22. I hope you aren't right (but I bet you will be)

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. No, especially in the Town Hall style debate format.

Bush won't have his podium to stand on.

[jn2375]

3. That means he'll have to stand up right for what 90 minutes

This should be good. Where my popcorn!

[proud patriot]

4. Terror terror , fear fear, 9/11 9/11 9/11

[jn2375]

6. Yeah that about sums it up

[951]

5. NO! NO! NO! and NO!

Face it he's slowly losing it

[DrBB]

9. Of course he will

"Winning" in what sense? All he has to do to "win" at this point is not fall down blubbering or drop trou and moon the audience. Long as he keeps a straight face and works up a couple new variants of his 8 talk points, the media puffballs will breathe a sigh of relief and proclaim him the Comeback Kid Hooray! No way he'll do as badly as the first one--these guys know what they have to do--and anything short of a complete meltdown will be sold as a triumph. After all, the first one WAS a complete meltdown, or damn close, and they're spinning it as a tie. I don't expect him to do well in any objective, abstract sense, as a debate team judge would call it, but so what? The media will bend over backward--or just bend over--on his behalf, like they've done all along.

I'm not despairing though. Kerry has accomplished something absolutely essential in Debate One: he has punctured and dissipated the Almighty Aura of Inevitability that was scheduled to start descending after Bush creamed him in their first head to head, which was on Bush's turf supposedly. Even with a "win" or tie in Debate Two, that's going to be very hard to reestablish unless Kerry commits some genuine gaffe.

[taquinas101]

20. I agree, Bush could bend over and pass wind and it would be called a draw.

Sadly, the less people watch the debates, the more Faux, etc. will tell them what to think, which is Bush won regardless of what actually took place.

The only solution is to try to get folks to actually watch the debates. I watched the debates, then I read about it on CNN, and I could not imagine that we were watching the two same people.

For example, look at the whole global thing that Bush is referring to. If you watched the debate, its perfectly obvious that Kerry is referring to building alliances. Nevertheless, Bush and Co. are making up this complete fiction about outsourcing. The irony, of course, is Bush had lead the way in privatizing security in Iraq.

[The Revolution]

10. He has even less material for this one.

If what he's been saying all the time is any indicator, he'll blame Clinton and 9/11 for all the nation's domestic problems. Hopefully someone will point out that the recession started after Clinton had left and before 9/11.

[phish420]

11. Nope, next two are ours too

He's on our turf now...we got through the Foreign Policy with a hands down win (the people see through the spin as I KNOW the polls in the first part of the week will show)...now we're on to the issues where it is obvious to anyone with a brain, bush* has no policy...health care, social security, deficit, economy, jobs...he has nothing but FAILURE.

[Jacobin]

12. Well according to some pundits, the last one was a 'tie'

BWaaahahahahahahahaha, so I guess, if Smirky doesn't drool and doesn't sputter and stumble as much when he recites his silly mantras, some pundits will say HE WON (kinda like 2000)

However, after the last ass whipping, I don't think Smirky will ever recover....people have seen him for what he is. An idiot.

[LibeMatt]

17. That CBS.com juxtaposition...

...elsewhere on the 'boards which shows pundits calling it a tie right next to undecided voters calling it for Kerry pretty much says it all.

Apparently, we're supposed to trust the "experts" over our own lyin' eyes. :eyes:

[nostamj]

19. a 'tie' .... right

and so was "Bambi v. Godzilla"

*splat*

[LibeMatt]

13. Only if...

...the Bush gang manages to detain Kerry and replace him with a robot which spouts their distortions and outright lies about his position and history.

[Cozmosis]

14. He'll REALLY have to defend his record.

Which is a pretty poor one. Advantage Kerry before going in.

[jn2375]

15. We need to be ready to hit the polls after the debate like last time

[Hutzpa]

25. Totally agree with you on that n/t

[jn2375]

16. Everyone is going to be glued to Bush's face

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. No way

He should have won the other night. The one issue prez had 90 minutes to discuss his one issue and all we got were sound bites. No way can he beat Kerry on domestic issues. He's been so busy ridding the world of evil that he has done zip domestically.

[charlie]

21. Yes, he can

He can relax and do the sort of shit he's comfortable with -- smirking, winking, shooting fingershots at people, tossing out nicknames, throwing an arm over questioners, getting mawkish for feel-your-pain moments (he can cry on cue, you've seen him do it)... the beltway pundits who were horrified at the last debate will be relieved to ditch substance for appraisals of style. We may be hearing about Cold Kerry vs warm-hearted Man of the People Dubya. Kerry could get Gored, in other words.

I'm not saying that's the way it'll turn out, but I am saying the way it can happen. Remember, all the pinheads from FOX to Larry King are still pulling for Dubya.

[immoderate]

23. If all the pharmaceutical companies

got together and combined their resources, they still couldn't come up with a medication the would get Bush through the next debate.

--IMM

[alittlelark]

24. He is TOAST in the next debate

unfortunately for * WE THE PEOPLE can look around and see for ourselves how F*cked up it all is. He has NOTHING to stand on. I guess he'll make some vague promises for the future (but you and I - Mr and Ms USA will be wonderin' why he hasn't done it during the 4 years he had).

This next debate is indeed the one of Rovian and Hughsian nightmares.