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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:28 PM
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More Swift boat Stuff in my Local Paper
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 12:06 AM by WLKjr
Guy by the name of Pees, says there was no enemy fire, Kerry lied blah blah blah he is unfit and cannot be trusted.


I am so damn sick of hearing this crap.....I would like to write a letter to the editor with facts from the US Navy that would debunk his shill editorial.


http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=8504
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leerj Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:31 PM
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1. really
so quit talking about it and get your proof and do it. it is your right you know. especially if you can back up what you say. looks to me like they have all the proof they need and if kerry would release his records then maybe the truth will prevail, but someone is too scared to release it because something is there or not there. i don't know myself but it is odd that he wouldn't do it. huh.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:34 PM
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4. You question the US Navy
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 11:39 PM by WLKjr
They backed up Kerry's story, not the swift boat vets......why do you question the military???


here's my link to back it up:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/kerry.medals.ap/
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:31 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:35 AM
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:39 AM
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22. what's wrong with RW fucktard sites?
Some fucktards LIKE feeling catered to.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:43 AM
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24. Thing is leerj
a higher up did that aproved his fucking medals.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:47 AM
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28. You must have been living in Oblivion
why are you people so bent on discrediting Kerry for serving his country, did you serve your country? judging from your comment/remarks, I guess not, but here you are ready to tarnish a Hero, why don't you go after Bush, find me a military personnel who served with him and then maybe just maybe you might have a say.

God!!

:grr:
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:34 PM
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5. What on earth are you talking about? They have zero proof.
Each and every one of their claims have been discredited. What a surprise that a lying president is backed by lying supporters.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:37 PM
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6. "If Kerry would release" yada yada yada
Git yer Kool Aid right over here, folks!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:45 PM
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7. Leerj, looks to me like
YOUR A FUCKING WHORE FOR GEORGE BUSH. I served in the Navy for 24 years, one tour in combat zone. The swift vote pukes are American Hating, lying bastard whores for the white house just like you. Are you paid well? Can you look in the mirror? I see you like to shoot guns. Have you ever been in combat? Please volunteer. If you can't join the military, hire on at halliburton and drive a truck in Fallujah. We'll look forward to your reports.
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leerj Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:35 AM
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20. actually
I am a veteran of OIF. i did my time in combat. If you want to discredit me for my time I spent over there then do your best. and no i am not payed well. being in the service for 24 years should've tell you that already.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:37 AM
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21. "If you want to discredit me for my time I spent over there"
And yet you agree with the discrediting the Swift Boat Alcoholics are unsuccessfully trying to do to Kerry?

Do you fucking see the irony?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:41 AM
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:44 AM
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25. Nothing to hide? Then post JPEGs of your orders to go over
with your name and SSN blacked out.

I'll give you 15 minutes.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:04 AM
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33. I think his/her
15 is up now.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:07 AM
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34. *sniff* I swore to myself that I wouldn't cry
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

and

:spank:
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:13 AM
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35. was he/she booted off another forum???
noticed a lot of deleted posts, someone must have gotten nasty and used the ?word? moror
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:33 AM
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37. It appears he shot his wad in this locked thread
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:47 PM
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38. hahahaha
he started getting mad and dropped the WoMC F-bombs. What a jarhead......if he was even one.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:47 AM
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27. What is it exactly that you do or did?
just a question... what branch, rank, division, stationed where? I am curious, cuz I have a few friends I went to school with that went over there.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:14 AM
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36. you spelled oil wrong..
it's spelled with an "l", not an "f".
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:50 AM
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30. More like a video of a Beheading n/t
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:46 PM
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8. Go back to Freeperland, troll boy.
Zzzz.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:56 PM
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10. Get yourself a box of tissues before Nov. 2.
Fuckin loser
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:33 AM
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18. I'm more concerned about the coWard-in-chief's spotty record.
I'm more concerned that he lacks the character to fulfill his responsibilities without having his dad's help. I'm more concerned about the military brass in Texas being told to scrub the coWard's records. Why? How pathetic is that?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:54 AM
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32. Where is the bat, let knock some sense into your thick skull....
you moron.


:spank:
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:32 PM
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2. Ask instead what evidence the guy has that there was no enemy fire?
3 men received the Bronze Star that day. Kerry was one of them. All of their citations mention enemy fire and no, Kerry did not write the report. This has been so thoroughly debunked that it's a sign of desperation that this guy is trying to revive it. Hit him for that.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:50 PM
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9. The article goes on to say
That kerry villified vets by testifying to congress and is disgusted by him using this whole thing for political gain.....

did this guy even watch the testimony I saw in history class when I learned about vietnam and the anti-war movement????
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:05 AM
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13. So Kerry can't talk about Vietnam but this guy can.
I haven't heard Kerry talking about Vietnam since the Democratic Convention and that's so yesterday. The word "testify" means that you are sworn to tell the truth. Is the writer suggesting that Kerry should have lied to Congress?
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:08 AM
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16. Exaclty
I may be young and not entitled to speak my mind on this matter, but from what I have read and what I learned in school, it's a touchy subject for some and some get violent or adjitated when it gets brought up.


IF the NAVY says the story is A OK and he got his medals righteously from the NAVY and THE NAVY confirms it,

well that closes the book, and that is truth enough for me.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:06 AM
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15. He's a partisan puke.
Write a LTTE. and e-mail him, that's about all you can do...some papers allow guest columnists, maybe you could call them and ask them.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:32 PM
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3. http://www.johnkerry.com It's all there
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:00 AM
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11. Can you print the letter or
direct me to a link? I really suspect this may be an astroturf letter because it sounds very similar to one I read recently. We've got to nip this crap in the bud and expose the truth. We may be able to do it if we compare notes.
Thanks.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:02 AM
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12. hang on I will get a link.
brb
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:05 AM
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14. Here's the article
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:45 AM
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26. well, he's got all the memes down
“The essence of the group’s message is Kerry is really unfit to be commander-in-chief of our Armed Forces,” Pees said. “And, he’s unfit because he cannot be trusted. The group’s primary concern was not the medals. The primary objection of all of the people in the group was that Kerry so distorted the truth in his testimony to Congress and vilified all Vietnam veterans. That’s the core of the disgust with Kerry is the fact he would so willingly make those statements for his own political gain."

What kind of idiot would think that protesting the war, even in that climate, would be good for a presidential bid 25 years later....
These folks are unbelievable. How the hell does this moran know what happened to Kerry's boat when a) he wasn't on Kerry's boat, b) all the people (except the one partisan puke) who WERE on Kerry's boat agree with Kerry's version of the events, and c) being that A MINE EXPLODED under this idiot's boat how they hell did he know what was going on on Kerry's boat at the exact same moment, I mean it was a mine, not a fart or something where a few bubbles popped on the surface (for all we know, maybe HE'S exaggerating). These people are so pathetic.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:47 AM
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29. Thanks
Seems that I read this article a week or two ago. Was it picked up by the wire? If not, it appears to be a rehashing of the same lies we've heard for weeks designed to keep the myth afloat. Nevertheless, I will keep my eyes open for homespun LTTE variety that are designed to do the same. Man, the letter that starts "As a former vet..." always raises my suspicion. ;)
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:52 AM
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31. no problem
I always get upset when vets fight vets, I don't understand where all the rage comes from, W didn't go at all, and even went offically AWOL according to the damn USAF from what I have read into.



Weather Kerry serving in Nam, under whatever circumstances, trumps IMHO, Bush being awol and not showing up for duty or physicals.

end of story.
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