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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:22 PM
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Tom Brokaw said on C-Span Media Discussion Panel/ "F9/11 Lies &
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 08:23 PM by KoKo01
Distortions...filled with Lies and Distortions said with anger in his voice.

He appeared on a New Yorker Magazine Panel on C-Span this afternoon (filmed earlier) with Dan Rather and Peter Jennings hosted by Ken Auletta (formerly of NY Magazine, Daily News & now NY'er contributor)

Brokaw freaked out when an audience member asked how the "Media" allowed the 527 Swift Boat anti-Kerry ads to run continuously without doing a disclaimer or saying on the news shows that they were "untruthful ads."

Brokaw immediately went into a tirade against "F9/11." Jennings and Rather didn't address Moore but sidestepped.

They didn't refute it, and neither did "moderator" Auletta..
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:24 PM
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1. Brokaw is a freeper.
Always has been.

There is not one thing in F911 that isn't factual.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:41 PM
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18. Yes, he practically had an orgasm in 2000 when announcing the
soon to be retracted Gore concession.

I haven't been able to watch him since, not one time since that night.
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fugue Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:29 PM
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2. Ask him to specify
And then respond using the info at Moore's site.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:32 PM
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3. CYA maybe?
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 08:44 PM by nu_duer
If you suspect (or believe, as I do) MIHOP (or LIHOP) , then I say there's at least a 50/50 chance the media, or major players in the media, were "brought on board" to some extent. The reporting was all over the place on 9/11, but quickly became homogeneous.

Video clips of the planes hitting the WTC and the Pentagon disappeared, and the media went into overdrive pumping air into the inflatable image of gwb as savior, even though the real story is that he and his gang had failed miserably - at best.

I'm not surprised that Brokaw would resume the kneeling position on this. What he did, in essence, was dredge up 9/11 to deflect from the real question - the swift boat liars for bush, and the play the media gave them.

That is telling, isn't it?

Very familiar tactic from the bush gang - change the subject to 9/11 - and very telling that a so-called "score-keeper" would employ the same diversion.

CYA, IMHO.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:35 PM
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15. I'm a LIHOP believer...I posted this because I thought folks would want to
know what Browkaw said on that panel...and that the others didn't get into Moore and 9/11, but Dan Rather did say..."we fell down on the job on reporting that." And Jennings said it was "McCain/Feingold" which left a loophole for the "527's."

Frankly, of the group there, Rather seemed the most believable. And looked uncomfortable sitting there with the others.

I was hoping someone else saw this discussion, because Ken Auletta just had an article in the New Yorker...at least I saw something in "Editorials Forum" here on DU a while back....:shrug:

I never thought Brokaw was more than a "shill" for Jack Welch (GE), but maybe he hangs out too much with the folks like Cheney in Wyoming at their ranches...of course Rather owns a Ranch with Rummy, they say, but maybe it's just one of those "business consortiums" and not personal. :eyes: But, are they all in it ....yeah...sadly they are it seems.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:24 PM
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21. many members of the media should be rounded up and tried
along with the neocon leadership after they are stripped of power.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:36 PM
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4. Brokaw's retiring after the election, so maybe he's showing his colors?
:shrug:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:43 PM
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6. He's probably also showing his guilt since there was
nothing in Moore's movie that shouldn't have been shown to us by the so-called media. Moore had the guts to do their job better than they did and they hate him for it.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:35 AM
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25. Maybe he'll do a "David Brinkley" on election night
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:59 AM
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26. He never made any attempt to hide them
I remember when he came out here to SD...in 80 I think...he was essentially campaigning for Ronald Reagan....as a paid speaker at a local university. I thought he might cream in his jockeys as he blathered on and on and on about NeoCon 1.

RC
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:39 PM
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5. Tom Brokaw and Tim Russert work for DEFENSE CONTRACTOR...
GE!!!

You see, they rely upon War and Death to get their paycheck. NBC = Military Industrial Complex T.V.!

:argh:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:47 PM
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7. Exactly. Add Tweety to those who love their paycheck over the country.
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ogsball Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:49 PM
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8. Should have asked them why
the folks who watch Jon Stewart on Comedy Central are more informed than the people who watch broadcast nightly news.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:10 PM
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9. Brokaw should look in a mirror to see a lie and distorted humanity.
he certainly isn't a journalist.

Was he asked to point out specifically what was factually incorrect in F9/11?

What a loser.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:23 PM
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10. I saw it too and was disgusted
He said the Swiftboat attacks were equalized by Moore's film. First of all, I don't see how you equate a film with the boat people. The film is a documentary while the boat people attacked and their lies were exposed. Moore's "lies" keep being referred to but nobody, Brokaw included, is spelling out what he lied about.

To make matters worse, the modertor quickly moved on after the question was asked further burying the issue.

As for the program itself, many in the audience supported Rather which was good to hear, but the candor among all of them was lacking. I suspect that if they really told the truth or pushed the issues, they'd be wanting for jobs--at least Jennings and Rather would.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:29 PM
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11. Jennings and Rather are more trustworthy. Afterall, Viacom and Disney...
are NOT defense contractors. They are entertainment companies. Yes, they are no prize packages either, but still, GE gains ALOT from having NBC be soft on Bushler.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:38 PM
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16. I'm glad someone else saw it. Thanks! Candor was definitely lacking..
and it seems to me, having been through a few elections that there's always some group having a "Media" mea culpa panel around election time..before or after where they do a "FAKE" Examine the Media Show and it's broadcast on C-Span...but nothing ever comes of it. The next election cycle they are at it again...

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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 02:01 AM
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27. Rather looked like a scared little bunny.
RC
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:31 PM
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12. Ask Brokaw to say 'Lucy had a Little Lamb..
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 09:36 PM by truebrit71
..that Liked to Lick Lollipops and Lolly-Gagged Lugubriously and Lamented her Long Lost tail....'

...and then tell him to shut the fuck up...
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juslikagrzly Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:32 PM
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13. posted this earlier
and I thought Dan did a great job overall!

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2445382&mesg_id=2445382
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:34 PM
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14. My review of this symposium from this afternoon
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:39 PM
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17. Sorry I missed both of your DU reports...I was off DU so thanks for links!
I didn't search far enough I guess, and figured most people might have missed it anyway.

Thanks!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 09:41 PM
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19. I hope they replay it.. I missed the first few minutes
Instead of all the nonsense, THIS type of thing is what should be shown on network tv..:(
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:11 PM
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20. Tom Brokaw a confused Idiot ...
what did that have to do with the question ?? :shrug:

...allowed the 527 Swift Boat anti-Kerry ads to run continuously without doing a disclaimer ...

Brokaw immediately went into a tirade against "F9/11."


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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 11:21 PM
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22. Broke-Caw is GE carrion, not a journalist. Scary confirmation that he's in
the Reichstag's pocket, too.
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merkins Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 11:31 PM
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23. brokaw quote
heres a brokaw quote from 1996 that explains this douchebags mindset:

"I also believe strongly that the Internet works best when there are gatekeepers. When there are people making determinations and judgments about what information is relevant and factual and useful. Otherwise, it's like going to the rainforest and just seeing a green maze."
http://www.fair.org/media-beat/990304.html
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juslikagrzly Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 12:05 AM
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24. And I suppose he sees himself as the gatekeeper
Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 02:14 AM
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28. Brokaw: what an elitist tool (nt)
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 12:25 PM
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29. the woman that asked the question was PISSED
she asked her question then marched back to her chair, pissed.

All four men on stage were shamed by her, they knew she was right to be pissed.

Then Brokaw made it worse with his Moore nonsense. The whores were all exposed by F-911, no one has ever explained why no one showed that footage from Booker school, or reported on the Saudi flight.

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