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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:38 PM
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Anybody hear this?
This is a comment lifted from Brad DeLong's blog:
I just heard John Zogby - today - Sunday 10/3 - on Air America “going out on a limb” and predicting a Kerry win. Apparently the undecided voters had their big break last week - *BEFORE* the debate- and it was against Bush. (The actual question was “Does the president deserve another term?” The answer was stunningly, overwhelmingly, “No.” Zogby doesn’t think the debates will make that much of a difference, except for water-cooler type talk, which of course will favor Kerry.)

...snip....

(What Zogby actually said: “I’m going out on a limb here, but I think that, from now on out, people will looking for reasons why they shouldn’t vote for ‘that tall guy’”. And a bit more of the same. You see, in the middle of last week - that is, *BEFORE* the debate - there
was a sudden change among the undecideds for whom Kerry is "that tall guy" and Bush is just "the President". Abruptly and en masse they broke against Bush and for Kerry on that question "Does the president deserve another term?" Suddenly a whopping percentage, a huge majority, said "No." I forget if it was 70 or 80 or even 85 percent, but some shocking number. Zogby says it was the first time he's seen this level of break in this election, but it comes at some point in every presidential election. And it's more than "significant". It's decisive - or has been in normal elections. Right at this moment, Kerry would win - if the election were held today, before what machinations Rove has up his sleeve.)

Sounds like Zogby's finding people are snapping awake to the Bush Horrorshow. And this happening before the debate would mean that Kerry's smoking the Chimpster didn't reverse momentum, but added to what was already building. Could be the wind is finally at his back.

Did anybody hear this show? Somebody tell me it's true.
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:41 PM
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1. Interesting you should say "the wind is at his back". That is
what David Broder said after the debate; "Kerry has the wind at his back now".
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:44 PM
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2. This link may help you.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=873
As of this writing this race is still John Kerry’s to lose.

John Zogby is the President and CEO of Zogby International, an independent polling firm and writes this column for the Washington, DC and St. Louis Business Journals where it first appeared.

(9/30/2004)
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:50 PM
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3. Oy, straight to the source
Didn't think of that, my dumb self. That's hugely encouraging stuff for a pessimist like me. Thanks!
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:55 PM
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6. No problem bro. I wouldn't have know either if someone
at the DNC hadn't pointed out that Zogby has his own site.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:52 PM
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4. Has anyone notice that the media has had very few stories
about the undecided voters after the debate?

I think we will find that most of the undecideds went to Kerry and even a fair number of people who were originally planning to vote for Bush.

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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:54 PM
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5. Agreed. Most will go to Kerry.
I think they've made that move en masse. The debate only strengthened their resolve. Combined with all the new registrations, John Kerry in a landslide !!!
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:55 PM
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7. Dang, so it is true?
That's good news if so. But still means we all have to fight like we're 10 points down. You know W's gonna have some terrorist attack/raising the level shit ANYDAY now.

And some more good news: I live in the Bible belt of PA where I fear for my life with my Kerry-Edwards on the back of my car, but today when I backed up to the Agway to grab a bag of horse feed (yeah it's hick-y out here), the girl who brought it said "I LOVE your stickers!! Can you get me four or five of them for me and my friends? We all hate Bush" It was great to hear living out here in very conservative Berks Co!
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