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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:00 PM
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the Palestinians & Satan are PREVENTING the return of Jesus!
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 05:01 PM by mopaul
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/9683FFA1-DE13-4D55-A405-9CE7CC0FA96E.htm

.......according to pat robertson, whom god chose to represent him on earth..........

"I see the rise of Islam to destroy Israel and take the land from the Jews and give East Jerusalem to the Palestinian Authority. I see that a Satan's plan to prevent the return of Jesus Christ, the Lord," said the evangelical broadcaster.

The founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network unabashedly said he favoured Israel over the Palestinians, saying: "It isn't a question of politics, it's just a question of God's plan."

Jews and Christians have a common heritage and a different God than the Muslims, Robertson said.

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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:03 PM
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1. So....he thinks there is more than one God?
But...ain't that kinda AGAINST what he believes in?

:shrug:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:04 PM
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2. jews, muslims, and christians worship THE SAME God
pat is deranged and dangerous
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:16 PM
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13. X-tian psycho Pat Robertson is an alien lizard sympathizer
We shouldn't forget that he already threatened to nuke the State Department... I hope his reptile masters haven't armed him with a death ray. :scared:









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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:06 PM
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3. Not only that it's against recorded history. Jews, Muslims, AND Christians
worship the same god: the god of Abraham. They just believe in different paths to him.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:11 PM
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7. Nobody ever accused that political huckster of knowing theology
probably for a good reason. Why anybody would call this cheap con artist "reverend" is beyond me.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:12 PM
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12. Have you read the bible?
The new testament is fairly monotheistic, but the old testament is not. Yawaih is the greatest God, the true God, but not neccessarily the only god. And considering how much fundementalists rely on the tone and context of the old testament, I wouldnt be surprised if he did have the same odd relationship with other gods.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:50 PM
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14. Not sure if your question is rhetorical, but I have...twice!
I read the King James Version when I was 19, read it again when I was 25 or so, and I'm about 25% of the way through it again (New International Version).
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:06 PM
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4. I didn't know there were diamonds in Jerusalem which is the only reason
the money-grubbing Robertson would be there.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:06 PM
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5. Ok, as stupid as this is, here's a different reason why it is stupid:
A Christian who really affirms traditional church dogma would have to affirm that God is OMNIPOTENT and that NOTHING OR NOONE can oppose his ultimate will.

When they ascribe this kind of power to "Satan" it is always so inconsistent and contradictory. Fundamentalists at the same time speak about the absolute and ultimate authoritarian sovereignty of God, and then speak about the Devil as some kind of a threat to those plans.

The greatest kept secret of fundamentalist xianity is that it actually believes in two Gods, not one God. God and Satan, in war with each other - and no matter how much they deny it, they ACT like Satan has some kind of real ability to disrupt the sovereign plans of God.

Personally I don't believe any of that - my own views are radically different.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:15 PM
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8. damn good point
the creator of all the universes screwed up when he created satan. they really worship satan in a perverse way as much as they worship his counterpart. the bible gives us god, but you gotta take satan with it. go figger.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:21 PM
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9. many fundies pray more to Satan than to God......see explanation
If you haven't heard the 'standard' pentecostal/charistmatic prayer, it tends to go like this

...Father God (..........)Satan take your hands off my family. Satan take your hands off my finances, etc, etc .........
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:08 PM
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11. I've never understood that paradox either. If God's omnipotent,
isn't is the worst kind of hubris for us to try to hurry Armageddon along, so it happens on our own timetable?

But I'm a liberal, and we just never understand these things! ;)
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:06 PM
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6. "It's just a question of God's plan" ... so we should help
Armageddon along and make sure the right people are dying? I find this type of Evangelical very scary.
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homerthompson Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:29 PM
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10. look up "dominionist" and you'll see pat robertson
amongst the list of names.

BTW dominionists believe they can induce the return of christ to the earth, by instigating the chain of events foretold in the bible that lead to christ's earthly return.
And they are actively trying to make it happen - war with the middle east is amongst the first phases.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:00 PM
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15. Someone please tell the Reverend that Jesus was a Palestinian.
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:10 PM
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16. He does know that a large % of Palestinians
are Christian doesn't he? If not why is anyone listening to him?
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Solar Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:10 PM
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17. Sorry
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 08:11 PM by Solar
But I really don't trust al Jazeera to tell the truth about Christians and Jews. They just don't seem to be an unbiased source in this case.

I don't doubt that Pat Robertson gets a bit loony sometimes, but another source would be nice.
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