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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 10:47 AM
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Josh Marshall not thrillled with Bob Woodward's whoring for Shrub
at least that's the take I get from this post:

"A sad commentary, on so many levels.

From last night's Larry King with Bob Woodward ...

KING: The comments about -- that he has made concerning Iraq, where he sort of like -- well, Powell let's go to work -- Powell said first. Powell said it was a minor issue, this thing about uranium and Africa. Do you think it's a minor issue?
WOODWARD: It's got to be explained. But one of the things that's most difficult to understand is what is the basis of an intelligence report? And the CIA and the intelligence community do these things called National Intelligence Estimates. And they are big documents where they take all source intelligence, they put it together, they sit in a room, actually, and debate, do we believe this? Is this credible? Is this supported here?

They do them on things when we're not sure. You don't need a National Intelligence Estimate, for instance, on whether the Soviet Union is collapsed. We know it collapsed. But they would do National Intelligence Estimates on things like, well, what is the threat that Iraq poses? Weapons of mass destruction? And so it clearly says it's an estimate. They make judgments. I've seen some of these things. And there will be a liaison intelligence service report, say from the Jordanians, saying we have a source who says the following. There will be a satellite picture. They're little pieces, little fragments. And it's inevitable one's going to be wrong.

KING: But what makes the State of the Union? That's got to go through -- doesn't that go through a lot of checkpoints?

WOODWARD: Yes, yes, it does. And that's a serious mistake. They've backed off on it in the White House. But Bush needs to explain it. He needs to come forward and say hey, look, people accept in their human relations and in their presidents somebody who says, you know, I messed up on this, and this is how it happened. They need to do that.

KING: Were you surprised that Powell, kind of, dismissed it?

WOODWARD: Well, you know, I'm really on sound ground, here, when I say it's one little piece of thousands of pieces that get sifted when they put something like this together.

KING: You don't see anything deliberate.

WOODWARD: Not at this point. Not at all. And at the same time, as Richard Nixon said, the cover-up is always worse than the offense. And if they try to not explain it, if they try to say, Oh, you know, we don't have to deal with this, or dismiss it, it's not going to work. They're going to have to come forward and say, Look, this came -- this person -- my understanding is there was some debate about it, and it may have been in one other speech earlier and got deleted and then got put in this one, so...

One little piece? De minimis deception?


The one piece that catches my eye is his statement that Bush needs to accept responsibility, that it's the coverup that's often worse than the offense. And since Bush has never taken responsibility for anything, he may never do that.

Link: http://talkingpointsmemo.com
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:06 AM
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1. Woodward is a whore/NSA agent. That can never change. Surely there
was collusion between him and the White House. Woodward was swearing on King many times that the U.S. would find 'significantly more WMD than Bush is even speaking about. It's the rule.'

Facts pointing to Woodward being a spy.
http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr196-woodward.html


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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:34 AM
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2. agree, Woodward is a member of the bushgang
BBBT&M
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 11:41 AM
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3. Woodward is just a dreary hack

And they said Sue Schmidt was a stenographer.

Woodward just lives in a time warp stuck in 1975-1977. Joan Didion really wiped him out for being a dupe in "The Deferential Spirit" in 1996-

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=1423
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jos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:03 PM
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4. Whore of the Year (2002)
Woodward whores for whoever gives him access. That's what he craves. To be part of the action.
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