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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:15 PM
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CSU Republicans Set Dangerous Precedent
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 12:42 PM by WillyT
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However, that a teacher on campus would publicly state an opinion so far removed from their own was more than some people would tolerate. Despite the fact that the incident was isolated and that there were numerous students to account for the teacher's credibility, the witch-hunt was on. One of the first to cast a stone was Chuck Fogland, president of the CSU College Republicans.

Fogland, in a rolling diatribe to sociology department Chair Louis Swanson, accused the professor of being both a communist and promoting fascism. Being that the right-leaning Fogland is a political science major, one would expect him to understand the duplicity in being both a communist and a fascist at the same time. Technicalities involving grammar do not appear to be a Republican strong suit at the moment, however.

The letter rambles on, accusing the professor of "assaulting" the student and threatening to use all available right-wing powers if his demands were not met. Fogland also included a recommendation that the teacher be sent off to Berkeley or Beijing. While failing to explain the reasoning, Fogland may be at issue with good football schools and/or Chinese people. To view this, as well as another piece of classic literary work directed at professor Helmericks, all are encouraged to visit the CSU Republicans Web site.

Republicans have no problem lately kicking open Pandora's box (i.e. Iraq), and this would be no exception. Now students leaning to either side of the political spectrum have a powerful tool against teachers from whose favor they fall. When faced with the prospect of an unattractive grade, one can claim to be the victim of political discrimination. The days of open, thoughtful public debate among those from differing political, as well as social, standings at this state institution may soon be coming to an end. But, according to Chuck Fogland, at least we will finally be able to enjoy a "safe environment on campus."

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Link: http://www.collegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/10/05/41622e8e3cd91

Watch out, not only are them fascists breedin, but their goin ta skool!!!

My question is: When is Chuckie-Boy signing up for the service?

:grr::nuke::mad:

Oh HEY!!! Here's a picture of CSU Republicans President Chuck Fogland:



And here's a link to their website: http://www.csurepublicans.com/

:evilgrin:

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:21 PM
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1. Yes, a friend of mine who attends CSU told me the YRs are stretching it.
My friend considers himself a Republican, but he says he won't have anything to do with the YRs at CSU. From what he tells me things are pretty tense around there.

But, of course, my friend probably won't be a Republican for long, as his moderate ideas don't seem too welcome in the party of Dick Cheney and Zell Miller. He's voting for Kerry and I'm sure he'll be a Democrat within a decade.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:24 PM
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2. what a maroon...what a nin-cow-poop...equating fascism with communism
hahahaha and he is a poli-sci major...what a laugh!!!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:28 PM
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3. Neocon Daniel Pipes is behind a lot of this. It is called Campus Watch.
http://www.kpft.org/news/110802story5.html
LEAD-IN BY HOST DAVID STILES: Last month, Daniel Pipes, a controversial figure in Middle East politics and head of the The Middle East Forum, developed a website called Campus Watch. The website lists university professors nationwide who express opinions that differ from mainstream academia - including Edward Said and John Esposito, both noted scholars on Middle Eastern Affairs. Seema Jilani examines how some Texas professors respond.

STORY: Almost all the professors listed on the Campus Watch website address American foreign policy issues and Israeli policies with a critical eye. The Web site listed the faculty members' names, positions, occupational history, and even quotes from their classrooms. Many other professors nationwide were outraged at the development of the Web site because of the potential for blacklisting within academic sectors. In a show of solidarity with those professors listed on the Web site, 88 professors nationwide asked to be added to the list in order to show their support for academic freedom and to show that they, too, embraced freedom of speech and open dialogue. These names were then added to the list and labeled as "apologists for suicide bombers and militant Islam."

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:52 PM
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8. Isn't Lynne Cheney Associated With These Guys ???
:shrug:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:30 PM
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11. Liebermush too, and Snake Eyes Bill Bennett
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:30 PM
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4. does he realize he's at a state run/funded college?
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 12:35 PM by nini
tax dollars are helping that little shit attend college - wonder if he realizes that!


I'd kick his ass if I was still at my CSU college!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:39 PM
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5. Has the Coloradoan (local Ft. Collins newspaper) covered this?
Can any CSUers or Ft. Collins residents give an update? What has the university's stance been.

Beyond being appalled at how ignorant this guy is (regardless of his political views), I can't imagine CSU allowing themselves to be so bullied. Granted the slumbag governor of ours has been pushing liberals in academia as an issue, but still....

Can anyone bring us up to date on this from the larger community spectrum?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:51 PM
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7. Closest I Could Come:
Link: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~61~2391777,00.html

This is from Sept. 10th.

All the other articles were from the Collegian.

:shrug:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:37 PM
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13. God, this is depressing....
We have simply got to push back these "brownshirts." I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in 1939 Nazi Germany-- or at least in the era of Sen. Joe McCarthy.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:44 PM
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6. Campus Watch website
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:18 PM
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9. There should be NO doubt that the Republican Party is a....
CLONE of the German Nazi Party!!!

The "Colorado State University Republiklansmen" are nothing more then LOVE CHILDREN OF HITLER!!!

:grr:

:argh:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:26 PM
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10. I'm Sorry... But HOW LONG HasThis Guy Been Going To College ???


He looks about 37 in that pic!

If ya want to read one of his diatribes (where pic came from): http://www.northerncoloradocourier.com/news/articles/article_450.html

If ya don't... I COMPLETELY understand!

:puke:


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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:32 PM
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12. Yay they have some registration free forums... n/t
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:42 PM
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14. He calls someone a communist *and* a fascist, then suggests
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 01:43 PM by Cat Atomic
they be shipped out of the country because he doesn't agree with their politics? That's like... irony, cubed.

Has stupidity and self-contradiction become a Republican Party prerequisite?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 02:19 PM
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17. 'Irony Cubed'... Priceless, LMAO !!!
Maybe that's the problem with rePukes and conservatives...

They're Irony Deficient.

Their actions and statements DRIP with irony, yet they don't see the irony! Don't even know what that is.

:shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 01:56 PM
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15. I have no doubt Chuckie is a Gutless Turd Chickenhawk who would piss
himself, whine and cry to Mama, before he completed Basic Training, let alone if he was thrust into contact.

I wonder what female private area I am thinking about when I call Chuck a Little (W)ussy?
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 02:01 PM
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16. Fogland. Perfect.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 02:27 PM
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18. Is being a communist somehow immoral or illegal?
Jeebus- these repugs use the term as though it means "goat fucker." They have done the same with the word "liberal."
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 02:29 PM
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19. Is Fogland a fucking vampire?
He sure as shit looks like one.
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