Hey Liars! What Part Of NO WMD Don't You Understand?

[G_j]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x887558

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iraq had no stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons before last year's U.S.-led invasion and its nuclear program had decayed since the 1991 Gulf War, a weapons inspector appointed by the Bush administration said on Wednesday.

The assessment contrasted with statements by President Bush before the invasion, when he cited a growing threat from Iraq's weapons of mass destruction as the reason for overthrowing President Saddam Hussein.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x887558

[rainy]

1. Doesn't this amount to war crimes?

nt

[meow2u3]

5. This actually amounts to crimes against peace

It's a crime against peace to provoke or start a war under false pretenses. It's written in the Nuremberg Treaty, and the US is a member.

[G_j]

7. exactly

also referred to as "Aggressive War"

[Skittles]

19. biggest foreign policy blunder in my lifetime

no question

[MallRat]

2. LOL! I love the screaming red inch-high text.

Maybe if we yell loudly, * will start to get the message:

YOU. LIED. PEOPLE. DIED.

-MR

[Steelangel]

3. heh...

no matter how big headline we made and shove it on these repukes, they will not acknowledge.

Even if Bush stands up and announce to the world that he lied numbers of time, repukes still will NOT acknowledge and label 'democrat's spin'!

Neocons is possibly the most PATHETIC people on this earth.

[SoCalDem]

4. What's your first language, Steelangel??

You might have some fellow contrymen here.. Sometimes this place breaks out into japanese, german, french..you name it..

Are you living in the US?? or elsewhere..

Tell us about yourself..

Why are you interested in US politics..??

and a belated "welcome to DU..:hi:

[G_j]

6. As Bush Continues to Mislead on WMD

THE DAILY MIS-LEAD
< www.Misleader.org >
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BUSH CONTINUES TO MISLEAD ON WMD

In the lead up to war, President Bush argued that America must invade Iraq because it possessed weapons of mass destruction. For example, on 9/28/02 President Bush said, "the Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons."<1> On 10/7/02, President Bush said, "Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."<2> Long after it became clear that there were no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, President Bush has continued to insist that before the invasion "Iraq was a gathering threat."<3>

A comprehensive 1000-page report to be released today by the Bush administration's handpicked weapons inspector, Charles A. Duelfer, will reveal "Saddam Hussein posed a diminishing threat at the time the United States invaded and did not possess, or have concrete plans to develop, nuclear, chemical or biological weapons" according to the Washington Post.<4> According to Duelfer's report, U.N. sanctions prevented Hussein from reconstituting his weapons programs.<5>

Sources:

1. "Radio Address by the President to the Nation," The White House, 09/28/02, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1333383&l=61151.
2. "President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat," The White House, 10/07/02,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1333383&l=61152.
3. "Remarks by the President at Victory 2004 Rally," The White House, 09/16/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1333383&l=61153.
4. Report Discounts Iraqi Arms Threat, Washington Post, 10/06/04,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1333383&l=61154.
5. Ibid, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1333383&l=61154.

Visit www.Misleader.org for more about Bush Administration distortion. »



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[killbotfactory]

8. But the oil for food program was corrupt!!!!

We had no choice!

[ghostsofgiants]

9. Hahaha

By far my favourite right wing pro-war argument.

[killbotfactory]

10. "Saddam HIMSELF was a Weapon of Mass Destruction!"

That's my favorite arguement.

[arwalden]

16. Why... I Hear Tell That He Gassed-His-Own-People, Even.

[leftofthedial]

11. "What Part Of NO WMD Don't You Understand?" "

all of it apparently

[G_j]

12. Hans Blix quote:

from BBC World

"It's sort of puzzling, I think, that you can have 100 per cent certainty about the weapons of mass destruction's existence, and zero certainty about where they are."

[billyskank]

13. A billy skank quote in response:

it's not puzzling; it's bollocks.

[DrWeird]

14. It's the "no" part.

They're kind of like rapists.

[Cat Atomic]

15. The whole WORLD thought Hussein had WMD.

No- really! That's what Sean Hannity told me, anyway. I mean... I coud swear there were millions of average people who so strongly doubted the Bush's administration's definitive claims of Iraqi WMD that they went out and marched.

But I must've been imagining all that. No, surely we ALL believed it. And "we were all wrong", as David Kay likes to say.

[Stephanie]

17. Hey, LIARS! What did you say about MUSHROOM CLOUDS?

Does terrorizing America with threatening language qualify as a terrorist act?

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39500-2003Aug9?language=printer

In an interview with the New York Times published Sept. 6, Card did not mention the WHIG but hinted at its mission. "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August," he said.

<snip>

The day after publication of Card's marketing remark, Bush and nearly all his top advisers began to talk about the dangers of an Iraqi nuclear bomb.

Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair conferred at Camp David that Saturday, Sept. 7, and they each described alarming new evidence. Blair said proof that the threat is real came in "the report from the International Atomic Energy Agency this morning, showing what has been going on at the former nuclear weapon sites." Bush said "a report came out of the . . . IAEA, that they were six months away from developing a weapon. I don't know what more evidence we need."
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/08/iraq.debate /

Rice acknowledged that "there will always be some uncertainty" in determining how close Iraq may be to obtaining a nuclear weapon but said, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud. - G. Bush, 10/7/02
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[G_j]

18. "I don't know what more evidence we need."

that about says it all...

on edit: Personally, I see the "Mushroom Cloud" statements as making threats against the American people, since there was NO evidence to support those statements.
Terrorism? you bet!

[Stephanie]

20. That's what I think.

It's a crime, IMO. NYC was still suffering PTSD and BushCO continued to threaten us daily, beginning with anthrax and then up through the mushroom cloud threats. It's more than manipulation, it's abuse.

[G_j]

21. Is it is a crime to yell 'fire!' in a crowded theater?

I think it is.

or perhaps "extortion" might describe how they pushed the US and the world into war.

I know I'm not the only one who hopes to see these thugs in jail before I die.

[loudestchick]

22. Are you from Missouri?

K. Hanaway...queen of the bush-bots...has been campaigning for congress on her message to Gov. Holden, "What part of no don't you understand?" She is as vile and smug as chimpy himself. Sorry, looked at your profile...NC huh?

[G_j]

25. yep

NC here.
I think the phrase was originally applied to date-rape type situations, but it has been morphed in all sorts of ways since then. In this case the rape scenario does seem somewhat fitting.

[VotefurKerry]

23. Clinton believed Iraq had WMD's

So should he go to jail too?

[Djinn]

28. believing Iraq had WMD

is fine, beleiving it was the holiday destination of Lucifer himself is fine - starting a war based on bullshit not fine - no-one asking for the people who were wrong about Saddam to be punished - just those that killed 10,000 Iraqi civilians based on that "error"

[Jackie97]

29. Clinton endorsed sanctions....

which led to hundreds of thousands to over a million Iraqis dying. He also bombed Iraq in 1998 with the excuse that Saddam kicked inspectors out when Saddam really did no such thing. The inspectors had left on their own free will after it was decided that they were going to bomb.

http://www.fair.org/activism/usat-iraq.html

Doesn't hundreds of thousands to a million of Iraqis count for anything?

[Dem_Loyalist]

30. So who all believed that Iraq had WMDs

and who voted the same way? Im sure John Kerry didnt.

[KoKo]

24. AND...on CNN they Rehabilitate Scott Ritter who said "NOTHING THERE!

We "Anti-Iraq Invasion Protestors" have been proved CORRECT!

When will they LISTEN AND DO SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING!

WE WERE CORRECT!

KERRY/EDWARDS LISTEN TO US! PLEASE FGS! Give us Legitimacy in the Democratic Party...we say it before Kerry/Edwards did. Robert Byrd, Teddy Kennedy and a few others SAW IT!

PLEASE GIVE US LEGITIMACY! WE ARE OUT THEIR WORKING FOR YOU...YARD SIGNS, VOTER REG, CANVASSING, FLYERS...ALL OF IT!

GIVE US LEGITIMACY!

[G_j]

26. I sure agree with you on that!

I would like to see one of the news shows feature a group of us to discuss this very thing, no 'counterpoint' just the forgotten, ignored, marginalized, vilified Americans who were right all along.

[Disturbed]

27. Bogus Intell cooked up by Cheney/Rumsfeld et al

Scapegoating the CIA is not going to get it. Even though Tenet licked the Neo Fascist boots, the intell was bogus from The Office of Special Plans. The Bush Admin. are all War Criminals that have perpetrated a fraud. In a sane world these Neo Fascists would be on trial for War Crimes. Since we live in the Twilight Zone no indictements will be brought forth on the War Criminals.