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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:57 PM
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Embed an RFID in every gun and other weapon
It needs to be embedded in such a way that breaking it open and removing the RFID would render the gun or other weapon inoperable.

Then when people pass through doorways or near sensitive areas, a sensor can tell not only that they're carrying, but WHAT they're carrying and WHO it is registered to.

Good idea?

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:10 PM
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1. I'm surprised that guns have serial numbers
And you come up with this idea?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:14 PM
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4. Why would your surprise have any bearing on my ideas?
I don't even know you.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:18 PM
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2. That's the first GOOD idea I've heard concerning RFIDs.
This would keep guns off my school campus. :thumbsup:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:20 PM
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3. Speaking of RFIDs, I just posted about them.
And I got slammed for it. Shocked me.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:50 PM
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5. Good idea n/t
n/t=no text
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 09:04 PM
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6. Uhhh......
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 09:05 PM by Wcross
What about the 200 million firearms already produced and in private hands? How do you propose we get them tagged with an RFID? What about home made guns? Guns don't have a shelf life and "go bad" nor is making a gun rocket science. You would also have to station an armed guard at every machine to enforce the exclusion zone. What would keep the criminal from killing the guard while entering?

I have to say the idea would not work in the real world. Bad idea.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 09:26 PM
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7. Great idea! Make it retroactive!
Bring yer guns in and we'll tag 'em for free. Sounds like a good idea to me.

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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:10 PM
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8. What about the criminals guns?
I don't think they would bring in the tools of the trade- do you?
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:29 PM
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9. I would predict a black market
where criminals pay huge amounts of money for untagged guns--or for guns that were originally "registered" to innocent people and thus untraceable to the criminal.

Guns can be registered to one person--and then stolen from them. Also the original gun owner can die--and someone end up with the gun who is not "registered". A person who does not understand the law (like a recent immigrant) can be bribed into "registering" the gun--then left holding the bag when an associate commits a crime with it and cannot be found. With so many firearms, it is nearly impossible to keep track of every single one of them.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:33 PM
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10. Nothing that 30 seconds in the Microwave cant fix
zap.. no more rfid.

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Can o Beans Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:48 PM
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11. I get paid to know a little something about RFID...
and I can tell you that we are years away from having one both small and reliable enough to do the job. Plus, they tend to react badly in the presence of chemicals such as...gunpowder. And the readers have very limited range right now. It'd be possible to control a secluded environment with RFID, but in a place any bigger than an office building, useless.

We're trying though...
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 08:02 PM
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12. The openings and corridors can contain scanners
And if you wanted to be really secure, the windows and chimneys too. Anywhere objects enter and egress can be a check point.


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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 08:38 PM
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13. Yes just what our country needs...
more big brother bullshit. :eyes:
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 08:56 PM
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14. We need ATM cards with transporter beams and warp drives, as wll
Guns are mechanical, not electronic. This would require a lot of re-engineering of a lot of components, subassemblies, design, etc....

RFIDs basically just send and recieve prespecified radio siganls, and would require as of yet a magical, Never Never Land secondayr device to render it inoperable.

Likely a very difficult, expensive idea.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 08:59 PM
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15. Not mention trivial to disable.
As I said..a few seconds in a microwave zaps rfid chips.
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