Statement by Ralph Nader before the Skull and Bones HQ

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Statement by Ralph Nader before the Skull and Bones
Headquarters-High Street, New Haven, CT, October 6, 2004



New Haven, CT: George W. Bush and John Kerry have been members of the
Yale secret society – Skull and Bones – since the late 60s. Hundreds of
Bonesmen are in powerful positions at the top echelons of government and
business. They are sworn to secrecy throughout their lives, bound
together for life, says Yale’s William Sloane Coffin. Skull and Bones
alumni have a common drive to get their members into “positions of
power” and to have those members hire other members into similar
positions of power says Alexandra Robbins, author of the book, “Secrets
of the Tomb,” and herself a member of another secret society at Yale.



Initiation rituals involve morbid admission of personal sexual
experiences and coerced displays of sophomoric masochism and mystical
mumbo jumbo, hooded robes and members carrying skulls and bombs
according to a remote video of one recent ceremony.



All this might appear like a more extreme version of fraternity capers,
but skull and bones is far more rigorous enduring and embracing. Bones
patriarchs converge on Deer Island, a forty acre “resort” on the St.
Lawrence River. This secret society has revealed no limitations on its
code of silence.



When asked about their membership in Skull and Bones, George W. Bush
only said “it’s so secret I can’t talk about it.” Kerry was asked what
it meant that both he and Bush are Bonesmen, he responded, “Not much
because it’s a secret.”



When it comes to election campaigns and elected offices, principles of
openness are supposed to operate in a democratic society. A secret
society of powerful personages running for office or holding office
raises several important questions:



1) How inclusive is this oath of secrecy?

2) Does this oath extend to member’s personal and business careers?

3) What are the sanctions for breeching the secrecy? Do they extend to
members political and business responsibilities?

4) Are Bonesmen expected to preferentially advance or select people for
responsible positions who are Skull and Bones Patriarchs rather than
base their choices on the merits of the various applicants for positions?

5) What general subject matters and roles of Bonesmen are outside the
oath of secrecy or code of silence?

6) How do Bonesmen rank the oath to Skull and Bones when they have to
take oaths to public office?

7) When oaths conflict, which takes precedence? Which takes their
allegiance?



These are questions that cannot be cavalierly dismissed by Mr. Bush and
Mr. Kerry; if they cannot or will not answer them they should resign
their membership in Skull and Bones publicly and immediately.



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[grytpype]

1. Ralph... shut the fuck up.

Seriously.

[dsewell]

2. Congratulations, Ralph!

You've just reinvented the Anti-Masonic Party!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. Nader just won the La Rouche vote

Hey Ralphie, why don't you do something constuctive and give a speech outside the doors of the American Enterprise Institute? As a trained lawyer, I suspect you are at least somewhat educated in the concept of PROXIMATE CAUSE.

[politick]

21. How strongly woud you feel

about Nader's remarks if Bush wasn't so bad? If we weren't all desperate to remove the worst president in history, if these were more idle times, would you take it more seriously?

just wondering.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

29. No

Not when there is an obvious organization such as AEI and he seems to be fine meeting with the likes of Grover Nordquist....there's an old saying, "If you hear the sound of hooves, it's horses not zebras." Ralph should confront the obvious and worry about fraternities later.

[ladybugg33]

4. I agree with Ralph on this one. Are we subject to no real choice afterall

There is so much that goes on that we all are unaware of.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

5. Baloney...see my post above

More of America's ills can be DIRECTLY tied to the undue influence of the American Enterprise Institute than can be attributed to Skull and Bones....Nader is a fucking asshat and now he has made a clown of himself.

[NotGoneDem]

7. What Ills would those be?

Got a list?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. Sure

Outsourcing
Depleting funds from education
the drive to privatise Social Security
Tax breaks for the wealthy at the expense of the general population

Want more? I could go on all day but I have a sense you won't be around to respond

[NotGoneDem]

16. Thanks

Sorry I'm late but I had to fix dinner. What's up with the won't be around slight?

[Forkboy]

23. Yeah NSMA,what did you mean by that slight?

:evilgrin:

I'm always looking for trouble! :silly:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

24. see?

[LoZoccolo]

26. This is what's up with the won't be around slight.

[GreenArrow]

10. six of one and half a dozen of another

two branches on the same tree. All part of the same good old boy's club.

[Cheswick2.0]

19. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

28. Not at all...one is verifiable

[CarolynEC]

14. Order's up!

Enjoy!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

6. i agree with him, too

if this society is damn important, then bush and kerry need to chose- the presidency or skull and bones. if they cant come clear ontheir allegiences and can only joke about it, then maybe they need to resign their membership

[Kanary]

9. Oh, hey! Skull and Bones is only practicing their own Affirmative Action

No problem with that, right?

:eyes:

Kanary

[GreenArrow]

11. or as Dubya likes to call it

"Affirmative access."

[jpgray]

12. Tubalcaine (nt)

[Ducks In A Row]

13. Well, I'm a member of the really really secret society....

oh wait, it's so secret I can't tell you the name.

but it's really secret and ralph can't join because he's a moron.

[Swamp Rat]

15. Yeah, and Nader belongs to the ALA - Alien Lizard Association.

[Stuckinthebush]

17. Ralph has really lost it...

Now he is jumping on this Skull and Bones nonsense.

Let's see...a fraternity made up of children from elite backgrounds and then (gasp!) they all go on to positions of power! No shit. Skull and Bones has nothing to do with it.

[RapidCreek]

22. If it's nonsense as you say...why does Kerry not concur with you...

and explain exactly what Skull and Bones is, what they are sworn to do, why they are sworn to do so secretly? You know...if it's nonsense then share the nonsense with the world. If it is a silly little club...the intenet and mission of which is silly...what the hell could it hurt to go public with an exposition of it's sillyness?

I eagerly await your answer.

RC

[Bucky]

18. Haha! Ralphie doesn't much like the feel of being irrelevent.

We won't have a landslide, but I think we can all smell a real strong victory in the air. Nader will not be a factor. Unless the Kerry administration does a LOT of fucking up, Ralph won't be a factor in 2008 either. But he's a one-trick pony, so basically from Thursday night until the 2012 elections, Ralph won't matter in America any more.

A sad end for a man who chose to be a historical footnote instead of an enduring major player in American politics.

[Cheswick2.0]

20. anything to get the naive idiot vote huh Ralph?

[A_Possum]

25. Fortunately...

Our candidate is actually sane. One out of three ain't bad, I guess.

[roguevalley]

27. They should be investigated. I am sure the organization has sold out

America many times. Reminds me of the Klan.