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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:30 AM
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Cheney Says Sun Rising in the East Justifies Iraq War
Cheney says 5 being less than 6 jusitifies Iraq war. Cheney says Michelle being played by the Olsen twins justifies Iraq war.


http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Cheney.html?ex=1097208000&en=4aaa4e3b0074933c&ei=5094&partner=homepage


Cheney Says Report Finding No Illicit Arms in Iraq Justifies War
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: October 7, 2004


Filed at 11:17 a.m. ET

MIAMI (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney asserted on Thursday that a report by the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq, who found no evidence that Iraq produced weapons of mass destruction after 1991, justifies rather than undermines President Bush's decision to go to war.

The report shows that ``delay, defer, wasn't an option,'' Cheney told a town-hall style meeting.

While Democrats seized on the new report by Charles Duelfer to bolster their case that invading Iraq was a mistake, Cheney focused on portions of the report that were more favorable to the administration's case.


Although it says Saddam's weapons program had deteriorated since the 1991 Gulf War and did not pose a threat to the world in 2003, the report also says that Saddam's main goal was to get international sanctions lifted.

``As soon as the sanctions were lifted he had every intention of going back'' to his weapons program, Cheney said.

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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:31 AM
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1. Cheny: I have said it and so it is so
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:36 AM
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2. Cheney: Pimple on ass justified Iraq invasion
The guy's a sociopath.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:37 AM
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3. "The Magic 8-Ball told me I was justified" (n/t)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 04:07 PM
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4. John Edwards must have seen this thread today.
;)


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/07/politics/campaign/07CND-BUSH.html?oref=login&hp=&pagewanted=print&position=

Mr. Kerry's running mate, Senator John Edwards, also had something to say about the latest comments from the White House. "They are willing to say left is right and up is down," Mr. Edwards said in Bayonne, N.J., according to The A.P. "The vice president, Dick Cheney, and the president need to recognize that the Earth is actually round and that the Sun is rising in the east."
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 04:11 PM
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5. BETTER : Cheney says sun rising in the WEST justifies Iraq War :)
Wrong again, DICK! :)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 04:13 PM
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6. It's Dick's War
He broke it, he owns it.


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http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040216fa_fact

CONTRACT SPORT
What did the Vice-President do for Halliburton?
by JANE MAYER
Issue of 2004-02-16 and 23
Posted 2004-02-09

<snip>

For months there has been a debate in Washington about when the Bush Administration decided to go to war against Saddam. In Ron Suskind’s recent book “The Price of Loyalty,” former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill charges that Cheney agitated for U.S. intervention well before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Additional evidence that Cheney played an early planning role is contained in a previously undisclosed National Security Council document, dated February 3, 2001. The top-secret document, written by a high-level N.S.C. official, concerned Cheney’s newly formed Energy Task Force. It directed the N.S.C. staff to coöperate fully with the Energy Task Force as it considered the “melding” of two seemingly unrelated areas of policy: “the review of operational policies towards rogue states,” such as Iraq, and “actions regarding the capture of new and existing oil and gas fields.”

A source who worked at the N.S.C. at the time doubted that there were links between Cheney’s Energy Task Force and the overthrow of Saddam. But Mark Medish, who served as senior director for Russian, Ukrainian, and Eurasian affairs at the N.S.C. during the Clinton Administration, told me that he regards the document as potentially “huge.” He said, “People think Cheney’s Energy Task Force has been secretive about domestic issues,” referring to the fact that the Vice-President has been unwilling to reveal information about private task-force meetings that took place in 2001, when information was being gathered to help develop President Bush’s energy policy. “But if this little group was discussing geostrategic plans for oil, it puts the issue of war in the context of the captains of the oil industry sitting down with Cheney and laying grand, global plans.”

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After months spent trying to obtain more information about the classified Halliburton deals, Representative Waxman’s staff discovered that the original oil-well-fire contract entrusted Halliburton with a full restoration of the Iraqi oil industry. “We thought it was supposed to be a short-term, small contract, but now it turns out Halliburton is restoring the entire oil infrastructure in Iraq,” Waxman said. The Defense Department’s only public acknowledgments of this wide-ranging deal had been two press releases announcing that it had asked Halliburton to prepare to help put out oil-well fires. The most recent budget request provided by the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq mentions the building of a new oil refinery and the drilling of new wells. “They said originally they were just going to bring it up to prewar levels. Now they’re getting money to dramatically improve it,” Waxman complained. Who is going to own these upgrades, after the United States government has finished paying Halliburton to build them? “Who knows?” Waxman said. “Nobody is saying.”

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http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Project for a New American Century
Letter to President Clinton on Iraq
January 26, 1998

<snip> Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml?cmp=EM8707

<excerpt> And what happened at President Bush's very first National Security Council meeting is one of O'Neill's most startling revelations.

"From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go," says O'Neill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic "A" 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11.

<snip> He got briefing materials under this cover sheet. "There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says, 'Plan for post-Saddam Iraq,'" adds Suskind, who says that they discussed an occupation of Iraq in January and February of 2001.

Based on his interviews with O'Neill and several other officials at the meetings, Suskind writes that the planning envisioned peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals, and even divvying up Iraq's oil wealth.

He obtained one Pentagon document, dated March 5, 2001, and entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield contracts," which includes a map of potential areas for exploration.

"It talks about contractors around the world from, you know, 30-40 countries. And which ones have what intentions," says Suskind. "On oil in Iraq."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39500-2003Aug9?language=printer%C2%A0

Cheney raised the alarm about Iraq's nuclear menace three times in August. He was far ahead of the president's public line. Only Bush and Cheney know, one senior policy official said, "whether Cheney was trying to push the president or they had decided to play good cop, bad cop."

On Aug. 7, Cheney volunteered in a question-and-answer session at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, speaking of Hussein, that "left to his own devices, it's the judgment of many of us that in the not-too-distant future, he will acquire nuclear weapons." On Aug. 26, he described Hussein as a "sworn enemy of our country" who constituted a "mortal threat" to the United States. He foresaw a time in which Hussein could "subject the United States or any other nation to nuclear blackmail."

"We now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons," he said. "Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand testimony from defectors, including Saddam's own son-in-law."

That was a reference to Hussein Kamel, who had managed Iraq's special weapons programs before defecting in 1995 to Jordan. But Saddam Hussein lured Kamel back to Iraq, and he was killed in February 1996, so Kamel could not have sourced what U.S. officials "now know."

And Kamel's testimony, after defecting, was the reverse of Cheney's description. In one of many debriefings by U.S., Jordanian and U.N. officials, Kamel said on Aug. 22, 1995, that Iraq's uranium enrichment programs had not resumed after halting at the start of the Gulf War in 1991. According to notes typed for the record by U.N. arms inspector Nikita Smidovich, Kamel acknowledged efforts to design three different warheads, "but not now, before the Gulf War."

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92372,00.html

Cheney Energy Task Force Documents Detail Iraqi Oil Industry
Friday, July 18, 2003

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force appeared to have some interest in early 2001 in Iraq's oil industry, including which foreign companies were pursuing business there, according to documents released Friday by a private watchdog group.

Judicial Watch (search), a conservative legal group, obtained a batch of task force-related Commerce Department papers that included a detailed map of Iraq's oil fields, terminals and pipelines as well as a list entitled "Foreign Suitors of Iraqi Oilfield Contracts."

The papers also included a detailed map of oil fields and pipelines in Saudi Arabia and in the United Arab Emirates and a list of oil and gas development projects in those two countries.

The papers were dated early March 2001, about two months before the Cheney energy task force completed and announced its report on the administration's energy needs and future energy agenda.<more>

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 04:23 PM
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7. There must have been a moment when he turned from the skeptic
on Iraq to Gung Ho Joe. Must have been during his CEO days when he probably couldn't help but put dollar signs on all that oil next door to the country he was illegally doing business with in the mid-1990s.
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