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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:00 PM
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A smart move for al Sadr...
Declare himself a candidate for Iraq PM.

I have no doubt that he would trounce Allawi.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:03 PM
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1. I'd prefer if neither won.
But hey, maybe that's just me.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:08 PM
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3. Not my preference either but...
I cannot think of any other candidate except al Sistani that is viable. Al Sistani will not be a candidate but he has endorsed al Sadr if Al Sadr will disband his troops and turn his followers into peaceful politicos.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:04 PM
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2. Women won't win under either Sistani or al Sadr
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:19 PM
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5. Nice priorities
I mean, the place is under occupation and women (and everybody else!) are shot up, kidnapped and raped by occupation forces on a regular basis.. but lets not worry about that. It is apparently more enlightened and humane for them to be buried under the rubble of their destroyed homes.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:23 PM
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7. Priorities? We aren't leaving Iraq
comprende? You think women are going to
get the same rights they had to work,
go to school and not have to wear a burka
under Sistani or Al Sadr....they won't.
It will be like living in Iran if anything.

And we're building 14 permanent military
bases and have the largest embassy there
under Negroponte...you think women will
be better off.

Yeah, right.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:49 PM
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15. women raped regularly by occupation forces?
WTF?

You're wrong.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:52 PM
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16. Did I say rape?
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 07:57 PM by Aidoneus
I meant, given flowers and candy then rambunctiously cuddled (www.SomethingAwful.com reference, if anybody gets that I will marry them on sight!). My mistake. They're really NOT being used as bargaining chips against resistance fighters, what goes on on the concentration camps of the occupyers is all on the up and up--they being run by our bravest heroes, after all--, and are not being shot at and having their kids and houses mangled regularly. Thank you for correcting me and I apologize for the strawmen. You can decorate your yard with them, or just light a match or something..
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:12 PM
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4. Al Sadar would be assassinated by Negroponte/CIA operatives...
...before the elections. To be a candidate Al Sadar would have to publicly expose himself in every election district and that would make him a wide open target.
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:20 PM
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6. Good one less sexist pig to rob women of their rights in the middle east
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:26 PM
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8. Did you just cheer the possibility of poltical asassination?
So much for bringing them the gift of democracy.
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:29 PM
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9. Do you support women being killed for expressing their opinions?
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 05:30 PM by 951
because thats whats "probably" going to happen if that hairy idiot takes power face it hes religious nut like John Ashcroft
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:35 PM
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11. Misdirection.
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 05:36 PM by DemsUnite
I said no such thing. I am in support of having Iraqis choose their next PM. It is not up to us to determine what's in their best interest. God willing, their "democracy" will evolve and issues such as the one you stated will be addressed. Just like it did in our own country ...

I take responsibility for only the words I have written. I will hold you to the same standard. Now ... what are your thoughts about political assassination, again?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:34 PM
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10. Al Sadr Candidate for PM?
He would not have to appear publicly. If al Sistani outright endorsed him for PM the word would spread throughout Iraq. I am not enthusiaticly endorsing al Sadr. I am saying that he is a viable candidate and perhaps his election would stem the Civil War that so many are saying would occur should the US Forces actually leave Iraq. Yes, it would suck regarding women's rights and a whole lot of other factors but the choices are limited.

A US Puppet Govt. will never work in my view. The blood would keep flowing and Iraq would remain in chaos. If al Sistani stepped up and had meeting with the Kurds and Sunnis, I feel that the various factions could iron out their differences and begin a process of governing.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:31 PM
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12. I doubt Sayyid Muqtada himself would run
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 07:33 PM by Aidoneus
They may decide to boycott it if it is deemed too dominated and rigged by the occupyers. For his part, Sayyid Sistani is going all out to see that it goes off, with hell to pay when it is exposed for the crusader farce that it is. At any rate, Sayyid Muqtada will more likely have his deputies run in local parliamentary matters, with perhaps his main spokesman `Aws al-Khafaji or Qais al-Ghazali in the top place--he would be better off on the side, not personally tainted by the dirty process of politics under occupation.

It is obvious that the so-called election at all levels will be rigged and constructed to suit the needs of the occupyers--Mr. Baathist Terrorist Iyad Allawi, meet Mr. British-Zionist Puppet Nuri as-Said, and may the new puppets swing from the same streetlights as the old.

The Kurds hate Sistani and Iraqis in general, and will collaborate with the Zionist agents in trying to break the nation apart to suit their ends. And from their position and the past, that's probably what's best for them, provided the aggressive greed does not spill over, but is just another complication as things stand.

The incessant wail, choking with ridiculous stereotypes, about "women's rights" means damn little in comparison with the major issues of the day, even if it was presented honestly. The fact that the argument is composed mostly of lies does not help either--it should be an informal rule that somebody should have Clue Fucking One of what they speak on before doing so, but that's just not the case (see 951 above for a fine example of the idiocy I refer to).
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:44 PM
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13. Agree about the Kurds
They are the sticky wicket in this.

Seems that the Sunni and Shi'ites aresn't to fond of the Kurds either. Turkey won't allow a sovereign Kurdish state, so this is a huge obstacle to unifying Iraq.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:47 PM
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14. Sadr is a creepy dude
I don't think he could win anyway.
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