Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The jobs figures.. Can we "assume" that the guardsmen and reservists

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 06:39 PM
Original message
The jobs figures.. Can we "assume" that the guardsmen and reservists
had jobs that they left behind?? Shouldn't THOSE jobs "left behind" be SUBTRACTED from the jobs growth picture??

Those are jobs that are "promised" to soldiers who will re-claim them (hopefully), so it's not really accurate to count the "replacement" workers as "jobs gained"..

Is there a source that has a "count" on them??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 06:46 PM
Response to Original message
1. You might be on to something here.
Ship the reservist to Iraq and fill the jobs left behind and WOW! Job growth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. The plan is to ship the jobs overseas and still count them as job gains
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. coupled with reports today regarding
layoffs for AT&t, 74,00 and BofA, 4,500
This administration continues to taut monthly jobs gained as net. That is another lie. He cannot boast net job gains.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 06:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. nm
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 06:53 PM by drfemoe
too much info ..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:08 PM
Response to Original message
4. I'm not sure how accurate it is to count as employed
those who've had their hours and/or wages dramatically reduced, either.

It seems somehow dishonest to count these statistics in black and white/employed or unemployed when so many I know have found their situation dramatically altered for the worse. Many have had their hours cut to the point where they and their families are no longer eligible for benefits through their work, they are sorely pressed to meet their financial obligations, and homelessness is a heartbeat away.

But technically, statistically, yes...they're employed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. It should be quantified by job "worth" and fulltime/parttime
You lose a $15 hr fulltime job with bennies .....and find TWO $7.00 hr jobs//no bennies..

That is NO GAIN
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 08:22 PM
Response to Original message
7. Remember, they started to count the military as part of the jobs picture
I believe it was under Poppy, but it might have been under Saint Ron.

Had to prop up the rosy picture somehow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:48 PM
Response to Original message
8. Good Point SoCal....what we "overlook" and Bush Admin. "Mistates"
SHOULD be looked at...When will we ever hear the truth...Geese, I hope after 11/1 a New Era Dawns.

Thanks for posting this...You know they are mis-representing Jobs, Employment, GDP, Interest Rates, Inflation...etc...so they own it all they think like a "dictatorship" they can report what they like that props them up.

But, doing this to the young women and men we sent into a war based on a LIE..really goes beyond a bunch of hyped stockbrokers playing with our pensions and jobs and lifes..it all fits together..but LIVES? Give me a break. Killing our young folks for this? Never...will I give up protesting this...as never will you...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 05:49 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC