young_at_heart
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:19 PM
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Is it now politically correct to call it "Iraqgate"? |
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If poor Dan Rather has to have Rathergate then Bush/Cheney can have Iraqgate!
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:23 PM
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1. Perhaps the "gate" thing is a bit old... |
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(like about 30 years), but what the hell, they deserve a "gate." "Iraqgate" it is.
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:23 PM
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2. As Bob Schiffer said on TDS: the gatekeepers dole these out |
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John Stewart asked a similar question wondering why say Abu Grahib didn't get a gate
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:24 PM
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3. Iraqgate/Iraqnam whatever it is a shit storm that much is certain. |
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:25 PM
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4. There's already an Iraqgate -- Poppy's |
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Just Google "Iraqgate" and see.
And "-gate" has become too trivialized anyway. Call it what it is ... a fiasco.
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:26 PM
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5. There already was an Iraqgate |
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It had to do with Bush Sr. arming Iraq before the Gulf War. It doesn't get mentioned much these days, but if you Google on that term you'll find out plenty. See, for example: http://www.fair.org/extra/9505/iraqgate.htmlhttp://www.webcom.com/~lpease/collections/hidden/iraqgate.htm
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young_at_heart
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Thu Oct-07-04 10:34 PM
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7. Thank you for the great links.....Why isn't this EVER mentioned? |
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Oh, that's right, Washington insiders decided that Iraqgate didn't happen and besides, it's "ancient history". I feel like screaming!!
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Fri Oct-08-04 05:30 AM
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10. Plus plenty of British involvement |
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remember the 'supergun'? http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1996/223/223p22.htmA murky coda has been the assassination, by persons unknown, of people investigating the arms trade or likely to reveal inside information. Gerald Bull, arms dealer and inventor of the "super gun", was assassinated in Belgium in a 1990 professional hit.
A 28-year-old British journalist, Jonathan Moyles, was killed in Santiago, Chile, the day after interviewing arms dealer Carlos Cardoen. Cardoen had been involved in selling Iraq 50 Bell helicopters containing the ultra-sophisticated Helos guidance system, illegally exported from Britain.
Andre Cools, former deputy prime minister of Belgium, was murdered in 1991, shortly after being asked to investigate Belgian involvement with Iraqi arms deals. Speculation still surrounds the death of British Tory MP Stephen Milligan in 1994, apparently the victim of self-imposed bizarre sexual practices. According to some insiders, the MP, who worked for the Defence Ministry, was killed for asking too many questions about arms trade corruption. ... Sir Richard Scott is, as he admits, "a member of the establishment myself". His report doesn't accuse ministers of lying, but suggests that their public statements and accounts to the inquiry are, variously, "specious, unfortunate, untrue, bizarre, uninformative, duplicitous, misleading, insubstantial" and -- not surprisingly -- "unconvincing".
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Thu Oct-07-04 09:26 PM
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6. Something along these lines was brought up by Jon Stewart last night. |
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He asked his guest Bob Scheiffer why there hasn't been any "gates" with this administration, considering all of the mismanagement that's gone on. Scheiffer's tongue-in-cheek answer was, "Perhaps we need to talk to the Gatekeeper."
Stewart also pointed out the irony of impeaching a president for a "blue dress" issue compared to the crimes of this administration that have been grossly neglected.
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Thu Oct-07-04 10:39 PM
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Cal it Iraqgate! Chimp loves "gates", as he loves OB/GYNs! From a 2000 speech: Bush Called for “Meaningful” Patient Bill of Rights. “Unlike Washington, D.C., where people want to fight, where people want to fight each other, we work together. We set aside our differences and do what’s right for the state of Texas. Unlike Washington, D.C., that wants to finger-point and argue and pit one group of people against another, we’ve come together to enact a real, meaningful patient bill of rights that says to our citizens you’ve got access to your doctor, that says to ladies you can bypass a gatekeeper to go see your OB-GYN.”http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:4nwMz1hnuToJ:blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/001956.html+bush+ob+gyn+2000+campaign&hl=en
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Thu Oct-07-04 10:42 PM
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9. I think Iraq is way worse than a "gate". |
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this calls for a new word denoting a larger disaster.
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Fri Oct-08-04 06:00 AM
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11. I think it may make the point, as nothing else -- even though... |
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other "gates" have not led to wars whose cost has been lives. Good idea --
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Fri Oct-08-04 07:03 AM
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12. There's already been one "Iraqgate" in the Bush family. |
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It's a little remembered Great America 'gate, referring to the revelation in the early 90s of the illegal arming of Iraq by the Reagan/Bush administrations. The Iraqgate Scandalhttp://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/iraq1.htmBush Administration Uses CIA To Stonewall Iraqgate Investigationhttp://www.mediafilter.org/MFF/BushCIAstonewall.htmlShredded Justicehttp://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1993/01/pizzo.html
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young_at_heart
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Fri Oct-08-04 10:34 AM
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13. Wow........I appreciate all this info!! |
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The Mother Jones article telling about the shredded documents and the 5.5 billion in taxpayer loans to Iraq is amazing. That sure was hushed up....let's bring it out in the open now.
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Fri Oct-08-04 10:38 AM
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14. Iraqnam has been making the rounds lately |
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and is rather apropos to the situation.
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