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VotefurKerry Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:28 PM
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Feinstein opposed to removing Hetch Hetchy Dam
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:34 PM
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1. they could build a big Coal Fired Plant to replace it...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:38 PM
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2. That dam has been there for 80 years. (nt)
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:42 PM
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3. the old gray mare...
ain't what she used to be.

i've been increasingly disappointed with Feinstein over the past several years...

whalerider55
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:48 PM
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4. I've been disappointed with Feinstein
for more than several years. I've voted for her in every election since she was Mayor in San Francisco, but never again.

She's terrible.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:57 PM
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5. She is looking beyond the forest.
The next war will be for water as California population explodes. She is a forward-thinking person. This is best..in the long run. Don't you see that?




Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she was opposed to "the destruction of one of the largest sources of clean drinking water in California.

"In a state that has faced repeated droughts and is desperate for water sources, I believe this would be a terrible mistake," she said in a statement.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:27 PM
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7. I agree. The folks wanting to get rid of this 80 year old dam are short
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 10:29 PM by w4rma
sighted, imho. I often disagree with Sen. Feinstein, particularly on gun control and corporate largese. However, on this I think it's important to Californa that they keep control over this source of water for at least the near future.
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VotefurKerry Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:33 PM
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8. The lake is over 80 years old
Just how safe is that dam?

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UNIXcock Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:26 PM
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15. So is Dianne
<sorry, that was just beggin' for a ribbin'> :evilgrin:
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:42 PM
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9. with all due respect...
i recognize the California water problem as a serious problem; complicated by the old bugaboo of unbridled development. we have exactly the same problem here in the town i live in in MA- we have ten years of water left, and the city just authorized sharing that supply with over 400 million-dollar homes built on a barrier island.

kind of like living off acredit card. it catches up to you after a while.

saline conversion? California has a lot of coast...

and in my limited understanding of CA history, there have been water wars going on for 150 years.

sorry, i just can't give Feinstein credit for that "viison" thing here. She buys the myth that all development, particularly residential, is a good thing. If you look at the smart growth studies, large scale residential development is a net loser for communities- you never make back in taxes what you lose in supplying services.

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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:03 PM
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11. She is the one who
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 11:05 PM by Carla in Ca
got legislation passed to buy back the redwoods from Pacific Lumber.
Co-sponsored legislation to get assault rifles off the streets.
She got bill passed last year to insure diversion of Owens Valley water to So. California.
She IS the reason we have water for the near future!

edit. Saline plants are a good idea, but we don't want to pay for it.
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VotefurKerry Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:06 PM
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12. That is what you get for living in a desert
Hetch Hetchy should be torn down.

It is in a national park and that land belongs to EVERYONE not just rich San Franciscans.
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:13 PM
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14. the point for me is...
you can't have it both ways, as people have tried to do here in my town. where was she as mayor when SF had it's huge building boom in the 80's.

the fact that she works her butt off to ensure that there is water, and shows little leadership when it comes to really grappling with some of the reasons we have quadrupled the consumption for it over the past 30 years just isn't inspiring to me.

i think some of her psotions- assualt weapons, some of her environmental and consumer positions- are good. she's made some lousy votes on confirming appointments- (Porter Goss is an example)
and it isn't like she's a zell or anything. and on the water issue, i have no doubt she has served her constituency well.

all i'm saying is that we need more than bandaids to address the astonishing usage of limited resources. i'd like to hear about her leadership on that.

whalerider55
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:47 PM
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10. I don't I think it would be a great idea!
If people don't have water to drink...perhaps it'll inspire them to quit reproducing like cockroaches.



RC
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:26 PM
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6. This is the Feinstein of the 'yes' vote on the 1st * tax cut.
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 10:27 PM by autorank
As a native Californian (now back east), I wonder what the heck this Senator is up to. She voted for the first * tax cut. This was a betrayal of her state, her country, and her party. She comes across as sanctimonious and phlegmatically shrill at the same time. She should retire and let a real Democrat come in. Hetch Hetchy was a monstrosity at the time. It is now an anachronism, just like Sen. Feinstein.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:13 PM
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13. The Hetch Hetchy valley that John Muir knew is dead
If they tear out the dam the place will look like a giant bathtub that had the sewer drain back up into it. It would take hundreds of years for the valley to return to anything close to what it was.

It's gone. I agree with Senator Feinstein on this one.

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markclemens Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:26 PM
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16. Redux
Tear down that walldam...Senator Feinstein!!!!

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