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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:23 AM
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POLL: Did Bush turn you into a Democrat?
I used to be, and still consider myself to be pretty moderate.

I actually voted for Bush in 2000. (boo! hiss!)

After 4 years of his administration I've been pushed so far towards the Democratic party I think I'll probably end up remaining here for life.

Has anyone else experienced something similar?
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:26 AM
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1. Yeah, I have
This is the first election I've been old enough to vote in. Before a certain day in late 2001, I was very much apolitical. After that day, a careful look at the facts drew me to the Democratic Party.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:26 AM
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2. Hell no
Nixon probably bears the most responsibility. Viet Nam, Cold War, Kent State, Watergate, ( starting to resemble a Billy Joel song here) and the deaths of the Kennedy brothers and MLK taught me to despise Repukes. * only confirmed my fears about the vile Fascist party called the GOP.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:27 AM
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3. Welcome. Here's your white hat.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:27 AM
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4. I've always been a Democrat. Bush turned me into a socialist Democrat!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:46 AM
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18. Agree, those were my first thoughts...
Oh wait, I think Limbaugh turned my into a commie pinko so I can't be a socialist Democrat. I'm confused. ;)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:27 AM
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5. Welcome back!
I voted for Nader in 2000 myself, mainly because I was so peeved by the milquetoast nature of Gore. Man do I regret THAT vote, even if it was in California!
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FuzzyHamster Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:28 AM
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7. yeah
i was too young to vote back in 2000, but i would have voted for Nader. I regret even thinking about doing that.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:27 AM
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6. Yep I went Democratic in Feb
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 12:29 AM by noahmijo
Bush turned me away from the Repuke Party and Kerry turned me onto the Democratic Party.

I plan on following the Donkey to my grave and pledge to work hard for every Democratic Candidate for every office as pennance to my sins of once being a Republican.

I just turned 23, so I'm too young to know what on under people like Nixon, but I'm sure had I grown up during that time I would never be a Repuke.

Reading "Ghost Wars" now has me wishing we could pass a bill that says Neo-Cons and Repukes shall NEVER have ANY control or say in the affairs of our military and conflicts around the world/

Oh welcome to DU by the way. :)
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:32 AM
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12. Thanks!
The people on this board are great! I enjoy it here.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:37 AM
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14. Lemme give you a few pointers there buddy
Having come off the heels of the Repubs, at DU here most people are a little more to the left than what you're probably used to.

I think the majority of us on here make Al Gore look conservative. We're all nice people but there are many different types of leftists on here some far more radical than others.

If you someone or lots of someones say something you strongly disagree with please don't think the whole board speaks for that person or group. It's a large tent this Democratic Party and we all gotta get along somehow! so just dive and in make your voice heard, just remember though unlike Republicans, Democrats I have learned don't stay in step, they don't agree just because their party says to but because they choose to.
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:45 AM
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17. I've noticed the diversity here.
I troll FreeRepublic and its hilarious to see how everyone there is in lockstep and never speaks out of order.

Here I've seen great discussions on different viewpoints that make for wonderful reading. It's one of the reasons I like this site so much.

As for the left thing, I think I might have swung a little more left than I give myself credit for.

Dean was my pick during the primaries, but I think Kerry is doing an excellent job.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:15 AM
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23. I voted libertarian last time
What a waste that was. ABB now.

And I'm really getting to like Kerry, which always helps.
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:30 AM
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25. "We're all nice people ,,,,"
Take that back or i'll knaw your ankle off.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:22 AM
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31. Okay we're all loving caring compassionate people
who abhor the idea of nastiness and name-calling and.....::silenced pistolshot::: :::thud:::
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:29 AM
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8. Heck, no.
I'm a longtime registered independent. I'm a fiscal conservative, but socially (very) progressive. Bush loses on both ends with me!
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:49 AM
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70. Me too! Same exact story! nt
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:31 AM
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9. Nixon did it for me
I've always voted Democratic in the presidential elections, but I've voted Republican in state and local races. I used to consider myself a moderate Democrat, but Bush has pushed me way to the left.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:31 AM
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10. No but he sure has turned me into an anti-conservative.
I was always a liberal Democrat, but I never held the Republicans in such contempt as I do now.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:32 AM
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11. I used to be a Green. Last March, I joined the Dems to vote for Kucinich
and I'm staying Democratic to work for Kerry. After this election, if we win, and Kerry doesn't fuck things up, I might just stay Democratic.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:57 AM
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21. My sediments exactly
Kucinich asked me to get involved in precinct politics, whereas Nader in 2000 just asked me to go to a Super Rally and organize to let him debate. That difference convinced me that (at least in my end of the woods) Greens aren't really serious about electoral politics.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:30 AM
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24. me three
:) :) :)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:32 AM
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13. Nope, my dad did
Bush is just the verification that dad was right
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KellyPaDem Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:39 AM
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15. a long tradition
I come from a long line of Democrats. My Grandmother protested the Vietnam war and had her phone tapped by the FBI (true I swear). Father and Mother raised me to be a proud liberal. However, I admit that since I turned 18 and voted for Clinton's second term I use to go to the polls and pat myself on the back for voting, I told myself that I was involved in the process and there for better than the people who didn't vote; but because of the Bush administration I had to take a good hard look at myself and I realized its not enough to just vote; I had to WORK for what I believe in. I never wanted to have to say to myself, "damn it my candidate lost (like in Florida) because I was to lazy to give up some free time." That's how the Bush administration has changed me.

In addition, I got engaged to a non-voter who I nagged into registering to vote, he registered Republican and then voted Gore. When Bush took us to war in Iraq he changed his registration to Democrat and is into politics almost as much as me.

To quote Clinton, "When people think, they vote Democrat"
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:43 AM
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16. No. Always been a Dem. For people my age, we've been
through this before with Nixon, but with Bush it seems worse because the country is apparently split right down the middle and the real conservative Repugs are not thinking of their own party or what's good for the U.S. and the rest of the world. If they would read their own party agenda and compare it to the neo-cons, they wouldn't vote for Bush either, i.e. big gov., privacy rights, big spending, etc. But it seems since Nixon, the Repugs have been pissed and blame Dems for his downfall - go figure; like he didn't have anything to do with it, so it's become a revenge thing. I don't see it changing either until someone comes along who is 3rd party that we all like. ha
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:46 AM
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19. An LA Times op-ed piece today
called * "A Dope", I kid you not. Hoffmania already has some buttons and shirts to go along with the theme.

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reggaehead Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:50 AM
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20. Think it was more the combination of
Ashcroft and Tom Delay. But Bush can share in the credit. I've always considered myself a leftist=libertarian type independent. I believe we need balance in Government. Especially our Government needs to be accountable to its employer ME. The Rabid Right has shown no interest in accountability or balance. So I will registered as a Dem and will vote Dem every time until a 3rd party candidate becomes a real option. Which will never happen until we take the money out of politics.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:04 AM
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22. I was a Dem-leaning Independent.
I would vote for the occasional Repub. Bush turned me into a full on Democrat. Because of him, I may never vote for a Republican under any circumstances again.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:33 AM
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26. Welcome to DU.
I'm glad you are not voting for the aliens lizards again.









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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:44 AM
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27. yep
He's so goddamn awful.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:52 AM
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28. I've been a Democrat since the day I was born
Sorry it took you longer to come around, but welcome anyway. :hi:
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:15 AM
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40. I like your SD Kenshin, Chovexani!
Yeah, my dad was a FDR/Adlai/Eugene McCarthy type dem.
I think the compassion for the working class, equal rights, remember your roots attitude is in my dna.

I do work the edges for strategic reasons, i.e. vote libertarian OR Green over GOP if no dem is running.
Greedy Oil Party is the enemy of democracy itself these days.
And looking back before my time, those roots of evil were spreading
At least since the EVIL McCarthy (Joe) to Nixon to Reagan to Bushes...
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gavodotcom Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:11 AM
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29. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative (Apparently I'm a flip-flopper)
Bush and his Bible, and divinely-unaffiliated selfish assholes, are the reason I could never be Republican. I self-apply the label liberal democrat, although my positions are not perfectly represented by the more accepted definitions of a liberal (not just from Rush, but Al Franken-types as well).

To give you an example of my views: I have a hard time defending guns, abortion, and affirmative action, although I see the reasons for each.

I believe Marx provides the best critique (of which I'm aware) of capitalism.

I believe in working-for-welfare (even if that's just job training), free health care, college, and a mandatory two-year stint in the military or CCC for these benefits, and you can marry a box turtle if you want--just don't let me see you make out with it in public. I don't think corporations are inherently evil, just incredibly selfish, as corporations should be. That doesn't mean they shouldn't play by the rules, and they should have rules with real penalties should they choose not to follow them.

I hate theocracy, fiscal-irresponsibility, war-mongering, McCarthyism, a total lack of faith in my President and his administration. For the record, I've never, ever liked Bush.
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:13 AM
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30. Nah, I am always a moderate-liberal
well, since I want to be a osteopathic physician so naturally I am all for health foods, environment and such..

But Bush and his 4 years does give a impact on me.. I know I will never be a republican.
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lakemonster11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:32 AM
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32. Sort of.
My parents are pretty liberal and, while they vote for the occasional Republican, they consider themselves Democrats. I was just old enough to vote in 2000 and I was absolutely pissed when Bush "won."

I'm not sure I've ever voted for a Republican. I think I voted for a Libertarian once, but almost entirely Democrats and the occasional independent. But I always considered myself independent rather than a Democrat for the same reason I guess that I don't call myself a vegetarian even though I eat meat so rarely that all of my cookbooks say "vegetarian" on the cover---I didn't want to limit myself by giving in to that kind of definition.

But now I say fuck it. I'm a Democrat through and through---and really I always have been.

Democratic Underground is a great place for me. Of course I don't agree with everything everyone else says---that's just reality---but I love that we have this place where we can be brutally honest as well as sarcastic and satirical about the current Republican regime without worrying about the "official" party line.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:49 AM
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33. First off, welcome to DU!
I'm always thrilled to hear stories about former Bush-voters that have seen the light. I have a lot of respect for people that do that, including OLD SCHOOL republicans that are against Bush but are otherwise still repub or independent.

That said, hell no. Born and raised a blue-collar yellow dog Democrat.

Bush has, however, made me more radical. That's for sure.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:50 AM
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34. No, it was Raygun
who turned me around after him and the RWingers took over the rethug party.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:00 AM
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35. Yes, it was Bush who finally made me switch parties. eom
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:24 AM
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36. I was a liberal Independent, who registered as a Democrat b/c of Bush
Somewhere near the middle of Bush's term I came to the realization that strengthening the Democratic Party is vital to opposing the rise of the radical right.

I became a lot more pragmatic in my political views (regretfully, I supported Nader in 2000) as a result of watching the radical policies of the Bush admin unfold and the general rise of the radical right. We need all of the allies we can muster to beat back the influence of the radical right, from moderates to those who feel more aligned with the Green Party.
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:48 AM
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38. bush ruined my life.
it's true. i won't bother people with details, but because of what i do for a living (study ancient iraq) bush has made me insane, literally.

i confess to having voted for the occasional rethug in the past. including (shame, shame) bush pere, when i was young and stupid and wanted to vote for a 'winner' (88) instead of a loser...i regret that greatly now. in 2000 i crossed over to vote for mccain, because i knew that the shrub was evil, and i had high hopes for mccain due to his efforts on campaign finance reform. i still feel like a fool for believing in him, and i am sorry that mccain has turned out to be such a wimp.

that said- shrub has made me a dyed in the wool radical. i was always left leaning, my folks are old civil rights activists, and liberal values are natural to me. but the last four years have made me obsessed with trying to find the deeper truth, and everything i've read/studied has just pushed me further and further to the left. i took that test that often pops up here, and scored somewhere to the left of bapu and king!

but it feels good, i have to admit. being a regular leftie like my sister seems almost as uninformed as being a rethug from my perspective. so much about what most people believe is wrong, i have the facts to back that up now, as a result of my research and studies recently. and in a weird way, i feel that bush has done a good thing, in that he's energized the american left in a way that i wouldn't have thought possible. he's also been the main fuel for the beautiful internet revolution that is unfolding right now before our eyes.

assuming he doesn't steal it again, i think bush may turn out to be a major factor for the evolution of america. we may still have some hard times to get thru, but thanks to bush, more and more people are waking up to the facts about corporate control, the power of collective action, and the usefulness of free information. good things all. not worth the lives of the tens of thousands who've dies because of his lies, but at least a silver lining in this very dark cloud of the last four years.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:42 AM
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37. I was an independant, usually voting Dem.
I voted for Gore in 2000 but Green party in some local elections.

After 2000 I realized that I would never ever vote for a republican, no matter how reasonable or responsible, no matter how terrible the democratic candidate running against him or her. The last four years have shown me that all politics is local and that a republican in any position, down to city auditor, is a problem that needs to be rectified.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:56 AM
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39. I was an independent
switched voter registration to Dem

in 2000 - Gore was the only major "party" candidate I have ever voted for -- previous elections I had voted for 3rd party or left it blank -- mainly because I did not like either of the major candidates

I had and still have issues with both major parties, however given the debacle of 2000 and with so much riding on this election I switched my registration and will be voting for Kerry

whether or not I remain a registered Dem is yet to be seen -- going to depend on what happens next

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:26 AM
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41. I have a friend,
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 05:28 AM by crunchyfrog
an older gentleman who had been a lifelong Republican, that is, for decades. He recently re-registered as a Democrat because he hates Bush so much.

He's really fun to listen to when he gets going. Just rants and raves about how much he hates Bush, then concludes with "I'm a Democrat now!".

I have always been a Democrat. I've actually been leaning somewhat Green lately.
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pelagius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:05 AM
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42. I used to be a moderate Democrat...
...and still consider myself such, but damn if the Republicans haven't gone so far to the nutty right, I'm a genuine lib'rul now.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:25 AM
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43. Yes, but it wasn't junior, it was senior.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:29 AM
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44. Bush has made me partisan
I've always been a registered Democrat but only as a matter of convenience and so I could vote for the more liberal candidate in the primaries (at least at the presidential level my guy always lost). I'd vote for the Democrat as the lesser of two evils only after going through the agony of deciding whether to cast a protest vote for a third party candidate.

This year I have Kerry stickers on my car, Kerry signs on my house and I'm volunteering for the campeign. I do charicatures as a hobby and always had fun lampooning both sides. Now, I savage Bush and Cheney in my cartoons but just can't bring myself to make fun of Kerry and Edwards.

George W. Bush has turned this lefty independent into a Yellow Dog Democrat.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:30 AM
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45. was Independent all my life....
changed parties a year ago to vote for Wes Clark.
Now I'm for Kerry all the way.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:33 AM
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46. Democrat all my life...
I'm old enough to remember red-baiting and the Kennedy-Nixon campaign in 1960...
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:51 AM
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47. Nope
I've never voted for a Republican in my whole 27 years of voting! I grew up with a Republican father and a left-leaning mother. I witnessed constant political arguments......Mom always won. Hands down. Dad was a closed-minded, greedy, bigot. (They eventually divorced.) Then the Reagan years hit and it solidified my anti-Republicanism. But I can tell you that I never imagined such an evil crop of them as the ones in power now.
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Commie Mike Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:20 AM
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48. I used to be a card carrying communist...
I was one of the idiots who thought both parties were the same. Turns out I was wrong. I actually protested Clinton when he was bombing Iraq. As you can imagine, I'm about ready to explode after what * has done. I do have to admit that I was wrong, the Democratic party has welcomed me, and there truly is room in this party for a huge range of ideas and beliefs.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:23 AM
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49. No, the asshole Republicans in congress in the 90s did
I mean, I always thought that I was a Dem anyway. I agreed with most of their stances. But, I was in high school in the last half of the nineties, and with people like Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde, Tom DeLay, and finally George W Bush, I realized that I would probably never vote for or even trust a Republican again.
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flobee1kenobi Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:29 AM
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51. I've always been a moderate Dem
But it was W that made me into an "active" Dem
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:28 AM
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50. Yes
I'm still an 'Independent' as far as registry, but the DNC knows where I live, so to speak. First time I voted for a Democratic nominee for President was Gore in 2000. That wasn't even cast wholeheartedly, but more of an anti-bush vote even then.

I'd say that yeah these four years have definately made me more liberal.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:31 AM
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52. A lot of us start as moderates on this board
I predict that within 3 months, the newbies will be calling you part of the lefty fringe. ;-)

Welcome!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:31 AM
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53. That happened to me ....
in the Sixties, when Nixon became president ...

I was a mere 12 years old, and I havent looked back once ....
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DebinTx Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:42 AM
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54. Absolutely!!
I too consider myself moderate but after suffering with Bush as governor, I'm a full fledged, card carrying, liberal democrat and damned proud of it too.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:44 AM
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55. I went from Bush to Kucinich!
Bush made a wee bit of a socialist out of me.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:07 AM
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56. No, Howard Dean did
Before 2003 I considered myself an independent who voted Democratic most of the time. I was disgusted with the way the Democrats participated in the dismantling of the New Deal, starting under Reagan and continuing through the present day. Dean convinced me that I could change things, and furthermore that I had the responsibility to do it. So I got active on a local level and intend to stay that way.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 AM
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66. bingo...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:11 AM
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57. The Busheviks have turned me from a True Moderate believing in gridlock
being the optimum configuration for American Government

to being a Radicalized Moderate who, no matter how much I try to retain my position of "one side should NEVER control everything" keeps creeping back to "if we do not stop and uttrerly defeat the Imperial Faction of the 'Republican' Party (which is virtually the entire party now, including all the dummies who are in denial about what their party has metastasized into) then we will have no freedom and no country remaining."

Tough to reconcile those views.
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:42 PM
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75. George has made me young in again.
Radical in my Vietnam era youth, I too had drifted to be a gridlock moderate. George has me feeling 19 years old again. Well, politically anyway. Damn reading glasses!
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:26 AM
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58. I was an independent until the Clinton impeachment.
Even though I voted pretty reliably Democratic for years, I was registered as an independent into 1998.

The Clinton impeachment pushed me over the edge. Now, I'm a Democrat and I'm not looking back.

-MR
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:30 AM
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59. John Kennedy turned me into a Democrat
I was four years old. Welcome to all you newbies!!! :loveya: ;)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:34 AM
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60. He did - from independent. Then, DNC kicked my ass back ,recently
I became a Democrat in december 2000 in outrage - and to aommit to fighting. I am out of the party system - to disgusted by the fixins this year.
I voted GOP once or twice in the past - NEVER AGAIN! Not even dog catcher.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:38 AM
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61. Yes.
I've always been independent. In 22 years as a voter, I never belonged to a political party. Politically, I'm a liberal, progressive, leftist/libertarian with socialist leanings. So I never voted republican. Democrats got a lot of my votes, with the rest going to some 3rd parties with platforms and candidates I support.

I voted Gore in 2000; having lived through Bush I, I knew better. Even if I hadn't followed his atrocities in TX. I'm referring to his attack and destruction of my profession; education.

It took until late September '01 for me to move. I was angry with Gore for not fighting the selection. I knew we were in for a hard 4 years. When I heard the response to 9/11, I saw the writing on the wall. It was clear to me, from the first moment * spoke about it, that his administration finally found a cause to bring an aura of legitimacy to his residency, and that he planned to use collective grief and fear to his full advantage. I became a democrat, to help organize the battle against his efforts. Unfortunately, in my eyes, the actual Democrats were a little late enjoining that battle. But better late than never.

I'm still not moderate enough to be completely comfortable with the Democratic Party; but for now I plan to stick around and work from the inside. I'll work to return dems to the WH and congress; then we'll see which way the tide turns. Obviously, I'll never be a republican!

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:54 AM
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62. Dem for life, but why did you vote for bush??
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:00 PM
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73. I had no clue that he would be as bad as he turned out.
and I really don't like Lieberman.
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SudieJD Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:03 AM
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63. No, But...
people like him is the reason I remain a democrat. Someone has to fight it!

Sudie
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:03 AM
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64. He almost turned me into a Republican
I am trying to figure out how the hell to rid the nation of him and his ilk.

I believe that the Republicans are going to be torn up regardless of who wins in November.

The Libertarian wing and the Fascist Christian wing cannot coexist without having the Democrats in charge of the Presidency AND Congress.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:05 AM
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65. yes, i used to be registered as an independent.
i registered Dem 2 months ago.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 AM
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67. This lifetime Independent grandmother got so
turned off with what AWOL's regime was
doing she re registered as a Democrat
(and a passionate one at that) last year.
I will never be able to be neutral about
politics again. I am astounded by my own
emotions, I HATE AWOL! I don't like hate
but there it is, now I have to deal with it.
The sight and sound of him makes me feel
ill, yet I have to get through the debate
tonight. Pray for me.
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GoSolar Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 AM
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68. I've always been a Democrat
On the liberal/progressive side. :)
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tibbir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:21 AM
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69. I come from a long line of Repukes (boo! hiss!)
but having Nixon in office while I was in college changed all that. The first time I could vote I voted for McGovern and I haven't looked back since.

My family wonders where they went wrong... :eyes:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:51 AM
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71. I've always been a progressive Democrat
bush has turned me into a militant progressive Democrat
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:58 PM
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72. No, Nixon did
in 1972. :-)
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:28 PM
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74. No, I solidified my political beliefs under (not because of) Clinton
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:46 PM
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76. Nope, God and FDR did.
but welcome to the club. (and to the DU)
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:03 PM
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77. Bush was definitely a factor...
...in me turning away from the Republican party. But there were more important factors in that transition. I was brought up in a very Republican evangelical household, so the social conditioning ran pretty deep. It took my a long time to both shed my belief in God and the unholy alliance with Republican politics that came with it. I started to open my mind about halfway through college, but by the very end of college, I was thrown to the opposite end of the political spectrum. I started reading a lot of books, and the subsequent enlightenment brought me way to the left. I was 20 years old during the last election, and didn't vote. I would've voted for Bush at the time, bud didn't 'cause I live in Indiana and it's so red it wouldn't make a difference.

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:18 PM
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78. I'm a Green, but...
Bush turned me into a Dem voter...at least for now.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:27 PM
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79. I'm a temporary Democrat
I usually vote Libertarian, but this is an emergency and I can't waste my vote on a 'protest' vote.

Before you give me shit about Libertarians, I'm not a purist, I recognize that the game of capitalism needs rules. I am a social libertarian, in that I believe the govt needs to stop telling me what I can put in my body, what I can see on TV, and what crappy music gets to be popular.
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:34 PM
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80. Yes!!!
There were other factors, but he had a major part in my ability to finally see the world with an open mind.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:37 PM
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81. No..my father was a labor activist...seeing the conditions that migrant
workers lived under turned me into a Democrat...that was nearly 40 years ago.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:41 PM
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82. No he did not
But I do see how he could push others into the light, running and screaming.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:45 PM
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83. Yes, Bush turned me into a Democrat
I'm a new voter, just turned 18. Prior to 2003, I didn't know if I was a Democrat or Republican, I certainly didn't feel informed enough to make a decision one way or another. Friends would ask me and I would say that I didn't know, I'd have to do some research to be sure. I didn't really "inherit" my parents' political beliefs, because my dad would often say that he was an Independent just to be more private about his political beliefs, though I know now that he's never voted Republican. And, my mom *had been* (not this year) a long time non-voter who also felt too uniformed to make a decision.

But, I did know that I was against the direction the country was taking under George W. Bush. This was about the time that the Democratic primaries had started to really gear up..so I went to see what the Democratic Party "stood for". After understanding what both parties stand for, I know that the Democratic Party shares my values while the Republican Party absolutely does not.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:45 PM
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84. I've always been a registered Democrat,
However, a good friend of mine, who has always voted Republican, is so turned off by Bush, Jr. he says he is voting Democratic for the
first time in his life, and he's pretty old. He thinks George, the Father was bad enough, but says Bush, Jr.is much worse than his Dad.
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Cozmosis Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:21 PM
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85. Yes
It snowballed from there. I followed my parents ideologies, and wasn't quite old enough to vote in 2000, but after a few years of Bush, I started seeking out some other ideologies, and found my home.
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:51 PM
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86. Nope, but he sure reinforced it.
n/t
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:56 PM
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87. No, Reagan did.
1. James Watt wanting to sell/lease the public lands and national forests.
2. Equal Opportunity setbacks (naming Clarence Thomas to head the EEOC)
3. HUD scandal
4. Iran-Contra
5. Pandering to the Religious Right

Actually, the James Watt thing did it. That's when I said "Whoever these people are (Republicans), I'm not one of them."
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:51 PM
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88. No, I am still a progressive
and much of the Democratic Party "line" over the last years doesn't speak to me. Nor am I a registered Democrat (we are lucky in NYS to have the Working Families Party as an alternative). But I have never voted for anyone but a Democrat, and under the current two-party system I can't imagine I ever would.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:04 PM
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89. no, but Kerry has made me a Green....
I'm an anti-war progressive who belonged to the Democratic Party for 30 years.
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-democratic-lady- Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:26 PM
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90. No
I've always been a democrat and always will be!
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:40 PM
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91. Yup ... he did ...
i was previously an independent but wanted to participate with the Democratic Party on both the local and national levels ... this is no election to be on the outside looking in ... I've given all kinds of time and money to the party ...

not sure I'll remain a Democrat after this election though ... I'm way far to the left of the DLC/DNC ... mainstream democrats don't seem very open to ideas from the left ...
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:23 PM
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92. Welcome to all the reformed voters
I grew up DFL which you may be able to see in my name. I was 4 years old like another poster here upthread when Kennedy was whacked. The tears in everyones eyes will never be forgotten. My father made one regrettable mistake and voted for Nixon once or should I say he was tricked. He will never look back and now after many years of suspecting Nixon/ B*sh ties to the Kennedy murder, I have sworn to never make a mistake (hopefully). I vote DFL all the way or at least anybody but R.
Add a few more scandals and thuggery and they have not gained any respect. The last silent coup and the uninvestigated 911 fiasco and war without end have only reinforced my firm beliefs.

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RhodaGrits Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:25 PM
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93. Nixon made me a democrat.
My husband has always said Reagan made him a democrat and Bush is going to make him a socialist :-)
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