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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:37 PM
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Poll question: Okay, the obligatory Poll: Who won?
And please tell why. There are going to be people monitoring the board tonight.

You betcha!
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rebel_liberal Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:40 PM
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1. Kerry Dominated Bush-The Blame President nfm
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:40 PM
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2. Kerry won because
He outclassed and out-performed. He was the only president on that stage tonight. Bush came off as a used up little punk.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:42 PM
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3. * won because he only made one mistake.
Four years worth of shit and the asshole only made mistakes on appointments.

Not bad./saaaaaaaaaarcasmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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ezekiel333 Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:44 PM
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4. Kerry Won
Bush tried the same party lies and John brought it home to him.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:48 PM
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5. Kerry. * did behave better this time. But that's it.
Kerry was strong on the facts, he was reasonable, his solutions for the problems of this country are workable for ALL Americans, not just for *'s base. * was lying his head off AGAIN. And using the same old talking points over and over. If the undecideds do any fact checking, they will know that as well. And I hope they do fact check, if any of them are lurking here.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:48 PM
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6. There is no contest
This time he called Sen. Kerry, "Sen Kennedy" according to the National Review's most liberal senator.

He did slightly better with less smirking. I bet his mama made him look at the tapes from the first debate.

However, he is still an imbecile and unfit as president.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:51 PM
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7. Bush made several false claims. The WMD/Threat/Terrorist debate...
...if FUCKING DEAD!!!!!!

Saddam didn't have SHIT nor was he a fan of FUNDAMENTALISTS!!!!!!

Bush CREATED the TERRORISTS in Iraq by, tah dah, INVADING IT AND CREATING CHAOS!!!!!

The jobs quotes were all easily debunked non-sense.

The "safer" shit was equally useless. He enraged an already enraged region? Yeah, we're safer, for now...Bush has given every suicide bomber recruiter a freakin' goldmine of sales facts.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:20 PM
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8. Kerry acted more like a public servant of the people
Bush was an arrogant asshole throwing his fantasized authority around.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:32 PM
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9. I lied and voted for Bush just to keep it honest
I'm always for the underdog that way. Starting to feel sorry for the guy.

I mean really. I read this in Rolling Stone today: Bush while in Alabama drinking his way thru his mid-twenties, dated the ex-wife of Winston Groom, the author of Forrest Gump

I do declare, thats where the expression "stupid is as stupid does" came from.
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YankeeFan Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:55 PM
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10. It was a Tie
For Starters please remember that I still think that Dean was a better choice than Kerry and Edwards put together.

My general opinion is that, for the most point, it was 50-50. For most of the night they kept playing the song “Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better”. And they kept topping each other. Just one thing after another. Name one subject, “I can do this better than you”, and it was topped.

A few things bothered me.

After the first Debate, Bush Leaguer was ridiculed for saying “It’s hard work…” Tonight I was bothered by the way Senator Kerry kept saying “I have a plan”, and he never came close to explaining just what the Plan For This And/Or That was. I was reminded of the movie where Doctor Frankenstein yelled out “It’s alive! It’s alive!” Tonight Doctor Kerry yelled out “I have a plan! I have a plan!”

Okay, elaborate on Just One Plan of yours.
I mean, really!

In a nutshell I think it was a pure draw. But Kerry could NOT gain one single advantage. And with the way the Bush Leaguer improved over the last Debate, Kerry was guilty of overconfidence.

And Face It People, 43rd didn’t get to be President by being a complete idiot. 50% to 75% Idiot, yes. But not 100% Idiot.

And while everybody here believes that we’re going to have another One Term President, I prefer to be nervous and worry. I still believe Dean would have cleaned His clock very easily. But I honestly believe Kerry was matched tonight.
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BrewerJohn Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:31 AM
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11. A clear win for Kerry
Maybe not a blowout like the last one, but a strong performance that had Bush on defense for most of the evening. He was there with facts and figures, and refuted most of the crap that Bush tried to throw at him. Plus he was cool, collected, and focused -- everything the chimp was not. Several of his answers, like the ones on abortion and judicial appointments, were pure gold.

Of course the resident has nothing in his record to run on except for misrepresentations of it, so those were forthcoming. Doubtful if anyone but true believers are going to be convinced. It's not looking good for the BCF tonight.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:34 AM
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12. Kerry won, but it was much closer than last time.
Apparently Bush is either back on his meds or back on the wagon.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:40 AM
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13. It was close.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 12:41 AM by IMModerate
Depends on how you scored. If you're rational and educated, Kerry made sense.

If you're a freeptard, who clings to, and squeals delight at every lie Bush reeks, then he got the points. I see him as if he's running for county Sheriff and it all fits.

--IMM
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