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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:14 PM
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Where does the 75% of alqaeda number come from???
"I vowed to our countrymen that I would do everything I could to protect the American people. That's why we're bringing Al Qaida to justice. Seventy five percent of them have been brought to justice."
Bush 10/8

does anyone have a link for this??

They keep saying it over and over. What, did they do an census, make al quaeda ride to Bethlehem on a donkey like Mary and be counted? I don't get it, if they don't know how many they are, how can they know how many they've got?

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:15 PM
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1. B*sh pulled that number
right out of his ass.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:16 PM
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3. I suspected as much, but it has to be based on something
(doesn't it?) ( :shrug: )
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:18 PM
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5. Yes. Al Franken has said the same thing many times
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:18 PM
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7. Actually, he pulled it out of Karl Rove a$$--which makes it really
smelly.

75 percent of an unknowable number = an unknowable number.

Holy mackeral, are Americans dumb or what? No wonder Repubs want to defund education--if we had an educated country, we'd vote the liars out.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:16 PM
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2. We captured 18 of their 24 "leaders".
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 11:17 PM by aden_nak
So that's 75%. It doesn't include normal recruits, or any new members that have taken the spots of those leaders. It actually represents 0.1% of the total estimated al Queda enrollment.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:22 PM
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11. 18 of the 25 we knew of in 2001
but recruitment for the last few years with bush living up to all of bin ladens propoganda (invading iraq based on lies) is a lot easier for the new leaders who presumably took the place of the 18 the US caught
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:23 PM
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12. But who identified and quantified their "Leaders"?
Did we take this number from the CIA payroll records, or what?

It actually represents 0% of the total estimated truth of the situation.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:17 PM
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4. off the internets
one of the bad internets that is....
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:18 PM
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6. He's making shit up.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 11:18 PM by DenverDem
To quote saint ronny raygun, "There you go again."

busholini is a pathologically prevaricating asshat.

The ignorant bastards that buy his stupid shit are wastes of protoplasm.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:19 PM
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8. How are they bringing them to justice? No one has been found guilty
of 9-11 in any court and had it stay. Only one person went to trial and the Germans threw it out because the US wouldn't supply any help to the prosecution.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:19 PM
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9. Are new Iraqi recruits included in that figure?
.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:20 PM
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10. The same place the notion
that he "busted the Khan network" came from, anywhere but earth.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:23 PM
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13. yeah, I completely choked on that one there.
I thought, what the hell...

Khan, the pardoned millionaire lunatic.

The only think busted was his anonymity.

(This is the nuclear Khan and not Khan the mole, or am I confusing the Khan that the con was talking about?)
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:28 PM
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14. Bush made a list of al Qaeda leaders. . .
back before we invaded Afghanistan. As these guys are caught or killed, he marks them off of his list (which he keeps in his Oval Office desk drawer). What he doesn't account for, of course, is that as existing "leaders" are caught or killed, they're replaced, so the assertion that we have brought 75% of them to justice, while correct (I'll grant him we've caught/killed that many), doesn't necessarily mean we've disrupted their operations commensurately.

Sorry. No link for the list. I remember the stories from quite some time ago.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:32 PM
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15. That's retarded. (sorry un-p.c.)
Because just as Bush's ass isn't fighting in Iraq, and al qaeda "leaders" are a lot less of a threat than the nimrods that fly kamikaze missions into buildings.

What a moran.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:45 PM
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16. Out of Cheney's ass.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:37 AM
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17. Al Queda is franchising
faster than McDonald's. The bombing in Egypt is an example. So, saying you've captured 75% of Al Queda's leaders is crazy talk. It's meaningless. Al Queda cells are in at least 60 countries. We don't know who the leaders are. We've captured some of the leaders. That's great. But there is no rational way to know what percentage has been apprehended. Bush and Cheney throw these falsities out all the time. They don't get nailed on it because they rarely talk to anyone who hasn't contributed to their campaign. Their vetted audiences just nod their heads and say "that's right". But, it isn't. Let's hope our media does their job and exposes Bush's many distortions. We need the truth.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:43 AM
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18. Yes, that is why bush is bombing so bad at these debates.
practically every audience he's in front of is canned,

and the media is canned

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