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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 03:53 AM
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I'm frustrated with Kerry
that he isn't pounding home the fact that
gas prices are crazy right now with crude
oil prices at record numbers.

I just don't get why this isn't being emphasized
as more of an issue that affects so many Americans.

But good job John in the debate!! :bounce:
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 03:57 AM
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1. Me too. When * called him an "ultra-liberal" (paraphrasing)
I don't understand why Kerry didn't do the Howard Dean comeback:

"If liberal means balancing the budget, etc. Call me what you want."
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:30 AM
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6. He called Kennedy liberal..Not Kerry LOL
Look, the time was so controlled, every issue could not be brought into the spectrum. I wish someon has asked why Bush has loyalty oaths. I wish Kerry had asked that, but I am not complaining because you just cannot take what this bafoon has done in 4 years and call him on it in 90 minutes !
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:44 AM
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10. I caught that!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:52 AM
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12. Uhhh Isn't that exactly what he did?
He said these lables don't mean anything. He said he was part of the Congress when they actually balanced the budget He said he broke with his party in '93, '95, &'97 to vote for the Balanced Budget Act. He said "We Actually Balanced the Budget"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:00 AM
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2. Next week the topic is domestic stuff...so maybe he'll use that then..
:)
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:32 AM
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7. yeah I think so too
and I hope he reminds us about the "opening up the spikets" line from bush.....
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:38 AM
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3. Because he can't promise to bring them down.
Our situation is so bad, because Bush refused to plan for this, that the price may remain this high for years. (Although it really should start to come down when our hurricane-damaged oil rigs start producing again.)

We've been caught with our pants down, and just pulling them over our arse ain't gonna be half as easy as it might have been.

Kerry comes in, he has to start funding competition for new energy resources and new ways to conserve. THAT creates industries. THAT creates jobs. We've lost 4 years spent on waste and Hummers.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:46 AM
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8. While Kerry Can't Promise To Bring Down Gas Prices,...
he should be hammering * for saying he could, during the Bush v. Gore debates.

Jay
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:39 PM
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16. You're right. GOOD point.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:46 AM
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4. Kerry is going completely High-Road
It can be frustrating to watch sometimes, but don't for a second think it's not being noticed.

Kerry looks like an adult. Bush looks like an ass-clown.

--bkl
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:04 AM
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15. exactly!
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annerevere Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:20 AM
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5. Wait for the third debate Wednesday
He'll get a gas question. Let's hope he knocks it out of the park.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:06 AM
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9. Um...you're naive if you think gas prices are coming down much.
To say nothing of uninformed. Global demand for oil has increased substantially in recent years, particularly from China and India (China alone built 5 million new cars last year). World oil production, though, has remained essentially flat, with some decrease, since 2000. OPEC is likely producing near capacity. Simple economics. More people want a commodity which exists in a relatively fixed and even declining quantity, the price goes up. Will probably continue to go up. There's nothing any politician can do about it; if he promised to, he'd be lying. And Americans STILL pay less for fuel than people almost anywhere else in the world except for the Middle East.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:54 AM
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13. He needs to explain his energy policy in more detail.
Gotta go beyond "I gotta plan to stop using mid-east oil"

Gotta be better than "Pie in the Sky" un-obtainium technology, too.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:17 PM
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18. You've missed my point completely....
I'm not saying Kerry should promise he'll be able
to lower gas prices; but it's yet another example
of how the economy is shit, when Bush stands there
and tries to tell everyone things are great and
Kerry should be calling him on it.

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truhavoc Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:49 AM
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11. The thing that bothered me was his rebuttle on the last question
I heard the question, "admit 3 things that you did wrong" and I heard *'s reply when he never admitted wrong to anything. I was literally jumping up and down on the couch for Kerry to say something along the lines of, "you asked this president to admit three wrongs and he could not even do that, to fix broken policy you must first realize that it is indeed broken"

Good debate though, he made me very proud with some of his comebacks.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:03 AM
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14. plenety of time for that in the next debate..i'm positive he will
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:45 PM
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17. That's right- and high oil prices add to the GDP
It's a misconception that GDP growth ALWAYS improves living standards. The high gas and oil prices are starting to nudge other prices up, and it will only get worse. In an economy where most people are LOSING ground due to zero wage growth paired with soaring health care costs, it translates to an economiuc disaster to the average family.

THAT's why the "wrong track" numbers continue to be so high, in spite of the supposedly improving jobs situation.
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-democratic-lady- Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:22 PM
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19. I agree -- he needs to call out the President on his lies!!!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 03:08 PM
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20. How many members of this administration are oil men/women? Condi
has or had a Chevron tanker named after her; uncadick is oil; smirk* was an oil wannabe...how many others? Who is making a killing off of the high prices I wonder? Smirk* and Poppy are best buds with the Saudis and I'm sure they never discuss anything about pricing or keeping up with demand (or not) as that "wouldn't be prudent".
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