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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:39 AM
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Once BushCo is out of office - will the media THEN come out w/ the truth?
I think many outlets will. Of ocurse, by that time it will be too late.

To know the answer to this question, however, you have to know WHY the media and others are so afraid to speak out against this administration. I think that once Bush is out of office, he will lose much of his power. Most of the media will then come after him with a vengeance.

I think only some of the members of the media are Repub. shills who approve of the neocons and what they have been doing.

People will then become SO cynical about politics that it will make the aftermath of Watergate look like nothing. Members of Congress from BOTH parties will be bounced out of Congress.

We DUers will THEN be vinidcated. We will be able to tell all the Repub family members, co-workers and neighbors "I tried to tell you all this - but you wouldn't listen."

This is what I am telling myself, anyways - lol!

The question here is "WHY is most of the media so afraid of BushCo?"

Any input out there?



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:45 AM
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1. Anthrax letters?
Profits for the conglomerates? Take your pick. Remember journalists being shot at during the invasion?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:56 AM
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6. I don't think they'd be able to get away w/the letters if they were out.
If Kerry would win and had his own dept of Justice I don't see them getting away with it. Of course, if Bush manages to reinstall himself this time around and puts more of his cronies in places of power - who knows what might happen?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:46 AM
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2. I don't think it will be too late
Anyone assoc. with this administration will be muddied by the truth when it comes out. Jeb, for example, has no hope of running for president. Others who aligned themselves closely with * will also be tarred - like Owens from Colorado, Delay and Co., all the Cabinet, aides, staffers, on down the line.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:00 AM
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8. I am ashamed that we elected and re-elected that asshole.
Owens I mean.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:03 AM
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9. What's this WE stuff?!
;)

I know what you mean. But, just maybe, this long nightmare is beginning to come to a close.

Can you imagine Colorado without Andrews? Keith King? All the other RW blowhards? I remember the days of the moderates, and things actually worked fairly well. Now they're a microcosm of the mess we're in nationally.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:08 AM
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12. I meant as a state.
I hated B.O. I did not want him there. I am hoping, especially with Salazar running for senate, that the moderates will take over again.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:47 AM
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3. corporate ownership
and concentration of media outlets in the hands of a few. Rupert Murdoch is a rw whacko, and I doubt seriously that he will ever tell anything other than his version of reality.

Other groups I think will be more pragmatic. If they realize that truth sells, they will allow the truth to come out. Look at Clear Channel-one of their stations carries Air America. The only reason this persecutor of the Dixie Chicks is doing that is because they see they can make a profit.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:48 AM
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4. admit they were wrong? i'm...
not holding my breath.
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bogey18 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:55 AM
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5. The same reasons a lot of us are afraid
We're getting old and we are desperately trying to hold onto a job that doesn't pay minimum wage with no benefits. I work middle management in a big corporation and the big money earners are virtually all pro Bush - were I to go around calling out all of the lies this administration puts out I would be persona non grata in a hurry.

To me, that is the biggest difference between this period and the Vietnam war period. As big as tempers flared and as high as emotions got back then (and you would have to be old enough to remember the day after Kent state to know what I mean), I don't remember being afraid to at least have an opinion contrary to the government. It is hard for me to tell if that is because I was younger and dumber, younger and braver, or if the dynamics of the society have really changed that much with the control the fundamentalist Christians and hard right wingers have put into place over the last 15 years. Are we smarter or dumber now? Did we learn anything?
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:23 PM
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15. I think the dynamics have changed since then. I also lived through
those times, and I never remember feeling that half the country was absolutely wacko and that I was persona non grata for having a different opinion. I DO remember thinking that Southern cops weren't to be trusted, esp if you were black or a male with long hair, but I felt that way about only small segments of the population -- not the whole goddam country.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:56 AM
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7. Bushco and the media are one and the same
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:06 AM
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10. no
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 11:06 AM by leftofthedial
they will immediately go into 24X7 Kerry attack mode

I wonder what will be Kerry's equivalent of Whitewater and Monica . . .


BTW, most of the media isn't AFRAID of BushCo. Most of the media is PART of BushCo.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:08 AM
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11. Nope. The collective denial will turn into collective amnesia.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:08 AM
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13. I doubt they will go after him
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 11:10 AM by JellyBean1
because I believe the corporate media is primary reason the reich wing of our political arena has been keept alive through the efforts of the media.

If J Q. Public was aware of the deceptions this and previous RW administrations had pulled, well there would not be a conservative left, except high within the corporate ranks and of course the most wealthy investors.

Most of the current Republicans would realize which side of the bread has their butter. There are very few individuals that actually benefit from the Republican Party's agenda.
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Zorbet55 Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:09 AM
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14. not until there is a revival of the Fairness Doctrine.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:30 PM
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16. not unless there is a monopoly breakup.........
and owners are not permitted to have over a certain % of market ownership........

break up the monopolies and there might be a chance to save a free press.
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