Reagan coming to $10.00 bill after all -- you heard it here first.

[Pab Sungenis]

From the October 12th issue of "Numismatic News." (Hard copy, no link. Sorry.)

A new $10 will be unveiled in spring 2005 and enter circulation a year from now. The $100 will also be redesigned, but it was bumped from the schedule by the $10 and a new timetable has yet to be established for the top demomination.

The $100.00 was redesigned first back in 1996 because it was (and still is) the most often counterfeited denomination overseas. The $20.00 is the most often counterfeited here in the U.S., and that's why it led last time. Both times, the first bill was followed by the $50.00.

Last time around, the $10.00 was the last to be redesigned, and released at the same time as the $5.00. They've announced that there will be no redesign to the $1.00, $2.00, or $5.00 this time around.

As little as two weeks ago, the $100.00 was still slated to be the next redesigned, and work was underway on it. The decision to do the $10.00 next was a surprise announcement.

My prediction? Bush knows he's going to lose, and is going to make sure that he takes advantage of the one shot he's going to get to honor the patron saint of the Frothing Right. The Reagan $10.00 bill is dying in Congress, which could very well be completely Democratic-controlled by this time next year. The Reagan dime effort has also died. The last way that a change can be done is an order from the Treasury Secretary.

Thus, I'll bet that Bush has given the order from on high. Prepare a portrait of Reagan for the new $10.00. Shortly after Election Day, a press release from Treasury will announce that the new $10.00 will have Reagan's portrait on it, and then it will be too late to make any more changes until the next round of currency redesign, slated for 2010.

Who knows? They may go for broke and have Treasury Secretary Snow order designs prepared for a 2005 Reagan dime, too, since he'll have control of Treasury until January 20th. If he orders that, by law the design cannot be changed until 2030.

Mark my words. Reagan money is coming whether Americans want it or not. Bush is going to push it through the back door.

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[951]

13. I don't care what president we have as long as he kills alot of people

...before they kill us.
:WTF:

If they can put that senile grey asshole on a $10 bill I want Clinton on the $20 Bill.

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[Dzimbowicz]

49. I cannot resist this one...

Did Strom Thurmond bequeath his hair dye to chimpie?

[951]

53. HAHAHA!

:bounce:

[alexwcovington]

2. I doubt it

You're worrying over nothing. All they'll do is add colour to the $10 bill. If the president were to bypass a Democratic Congress to get something like this done, they'd strike back quickly.

[Pab Sungenis]

5. That's the thing....

He won't really be bypassing Congress. The bill was never voted down -- it actually never came up for a vote. Neither did the Reagan dime legislation.

Barring direct intervention by Congress -- which has never been done in the case of paper money and only six times in the case of coins (the bills that gave us the Washington quarter, Kennedy Half, Susan B. Anthony and Sacagawea Dollars, Statehood Quarters, and Lewis & Clark nickels -- the Treasury Secretary has total control over the designs on money. In the case of coins, the Mint Act of 1892 ensures that any design selected by a Treasury Secretary cannot (without an act of Congress) be replaced for 25 years. Not even an executive order from President Kerry could do it.

It wouldn't be illegal, and if he's already lost, he's not going to care about the backlash.

[Art_from_Ark]

46. You're thinking of the Act of September 26, 1890

which set the minimum time of 25 years for a coin design. However, the law was violated early on, when the Barber designs were discontinued after a 24-year run for the dime and quarter (1892-1916), and a 23-year run for the half dollar (1892-1915). But you are right that while subsequent designs have been replaced before their 25 years were up (Standing Liberty 25c, Franklin 50c, Eisenhower $1, Anthony $1), they were replaced after an act of Congress. And as you noted, the Treasury Secretary can change designs at his discretion after the 25-year period, but he will nearly certainly bend to the will of the president if the president wants to change the designs (a la Theodor Roosevelt).

[Pab Sungenis]

50. That;s the act.

And the Barber designs were minted for 25 years. 1892 through 1916 is 25 years.

[Art_from_Ark]

56. No, the Barber 10c and 25c designs were only 24 years old

when they were replaced (1916-1892= 24). According to noted numismatic researcher Walter Breen, the Secretary of the Treasury got around that age restriction by claiming that the new designs were for "fiscal 1917" (which began on July 1, 1916). That is why there are both the Barber and new designs for the dime and quarter in that year.

But the Barber half was ended in 1915 (no 1916's were made of that design) and replaced with the Walking Liberty half in 1916, so no matter how you calculate its age, it was still below the 25-year threshold.

[Deja Q]

3. A link can be read here:

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/hr4528.html

And I will scribble certain things on every bill that has his face on it. The man who gave us the initial debt, made friends with those who are now our current enemies (so what did we do to piss them off?), and screw the working class royally (without lube) at the same time?


Much more here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%2410+bill+redesign&btnG=Search

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4. People's likenesses can't be on stamps until

they've been dead for ten years.

But I just recalled that the Roosevelt dime was issued fairly soon after he died, and the Kennedy half dollar was also minted within a couple of years of Kennedy's assassination.

But Reagan on U.S. currency? He's nowhere near the stature of anyone else who's on U.S. currency (except possibly Salmon P. Chase, who is on the $10,000 bill.)

[Pab Sungenis]

7. No such law in the case of money.

A number of living or recently-deceased people have appeared on paper money. There is no restriction on it.

There is a tradition against using living people on coins, but there have been exceptions. Calvin Coolidge, Sen. Joseph Robinson, and Eunice Kennedy Shriver have all appeared on coins while they were alive.

The Roosevelt dime came out in 1946 -- less than a year after his death. Kennedy died November 22, 1963, and the first Kennedy halves rolled off the presses on January 2, 1964.

[baldguy]

6. "May I have two $5 bills instead? I don't accept fascists on my money."

Otherwise, I'll put a big red & black swastika on every one I get.

[Paxdora]

10. I will REFUSE any $10 bills with Reagan's mug on it!

I will ask for 2 fives or 10 ones in lieu of the
NaziRepublican's $10 bill! Shit, I'll even take coins instead!

:-(

[NV Whino]

12. I agree.

2-5s please.

[951]

14. Thank You I refuse to accept a Reagan bill

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[Paxdora]

23. How come you don't know...

what a Freeper is???

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[Paxdora]

26. "Scared" of your opinions???

ROTFL! Everyone here has different opinions, and voices them all the time without fear. You had your say, and I had mine. No big deal, chum....

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[951]

33. Yes

I guess you forgot your own post well let me remind you:




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You mean to tell me that if they put his face on a bill you would refuse it?

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Are u a child?




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sorry...I just can't believe this..



They could put Frankenstein on my money and I would still use it..

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Now beat it freeper

[FlemingsGhost]

34. If I'm not mistaken, you did the same.

You asked if a poster was a "child," suggesting immaturity.

A mild one, but a personal attack, nonetheless.

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[FlemingsGhost]

40. I pointed out a flaw in your logic.

Standard debate technique.

Your taking it personally. Not good, in debate.

[NoPasaran]

45. Gone already

And I never even had a chance to say goodbye!

[Paxdora]

25. If I want $10 dollars in a different format...

I am not turning down $10 dollars; anyone has the right to ask for two $5 dollar bills, ten $1 bills, or four pieces of fake 'silver' coins(quarters). I don't have to carry Reagan's ugly puss around with me in my wallet if I don't want to when I can have the same amount of money in a different way. Get it, Hamid?

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[FlemingsGhost]

39. Yes ... it is entertaining.

Each day, I see certain Americans getting more and more desperate to support point of view that is collasping around them. A creaking structure with a hollow core, and rotting walls.

They get angrier and angrier, exposing even more transparent passive/agressive mannerisms. The proverbial "ton of bricks" is about to crush them, and still they wallow in the illusion of self-importance. The level of denial is astounding.

To witness is somewhat sad, but oh so entertaining.

Know anyone like that, Hamid?

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. I wouldn't have a problem with frankenstein on the 10 bill

Reagan I do have a problem with.

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[annabanana]

48. hey abid..

If people don't want to use it, it goes out (there are very few places you'll find sacajawea's dollar outside the post office)

[phylny]

58. This was exactly my thought!

If it happens, I won't accept any $10 bills.

[FlemingsGhost]

8. Imagine the "creative expression" possibilities ...

of having the face of Ronald Reagan on currency.

[LunaSea]

9. It'll be woth getting rubber stamps made

with links to Iran-contra details and sooo much more.

If that comes to pass, they'll be very sorry.

[Pab Sungenis]

17. Yep.

Any time a Reagan bill comes into your possession, just rubber stamp it with a link to one of the "Truth About Reagan" sites.

What would we do with the dime if they put him on it? Paint them a different color?

[Cha]

11. I will not have a reagun bill in my

care..

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. I will never have that bill in my possession.

I will never accept one as change either. :grr:

[cavanaghjam]

20. shameless

This is the same guy who named a US Navy ship after his daddy. A ship built with taxpayer dollars. And the silence in the media was deafening. These people have no shame. Putting Reagan above Hamilton in history? Good God.

[Zomby Woof]

27. nope

The Treasury issued a press release last week confirming that the 10 is a getting a color change, but also confirmed there are no plans to put Reagan on it.

You heard the ZOMBY TROOF here first, and not one tinfoiler has ever been right going up against me.

[DebJ]

41. Thanks Zomby. Alexander Hamilton is my hero. I love $10 bills

[Pab Sungenis]

51. I hope you are right.

But why force through the redesign of the $10? No one counterfeits 10's.

I personally think it's time to redesign all of our money and get all the politicians off of it. Let's see some famous poets, painters, inventors, etc.

[truthbetold]

28. UGH.

Must. Suppress. Vomit!

[Johnny 99]

29. If I'm not mistaken

Changing money requires an act of Congress, yes? Even if the Treasury Secretary unveils a new design, it still would take Congress to approve it.

Now, if they want to take that drunken dipshit Grant off of the $50, we can talk.

[cavanaghjam]

43. At least Grant accomplished something

with his life, more than a few B movies. As Lincoln said when told Grant was drinking too much, "Find out what kind of whiskey he's drinking and send some to my other generals."

[murdoch]

42. At least Nancy Reagan had the good sense...

...to say that the Reagan-on-money thing was not something she wanted. And her son is all over the air denouncing Bush Jr., I wonder what she thinks. Even Pat Buchanan is saying invading Iraq was ridiculous, and that the US military deployment around the world should be decreased. He may want to do so because he sees everything as a Jewish conspiracy, but I'd rather do the right thing for the wrong reason than the wrong thing with supposed good intentions.

[Skittles]

44. I will draw horns on that evil f***ing face

indeed I will

[demforall]

47. wow!

Who is the last Democrat on our money? I wonder...

[Pab Sungenis]

52. Kennedy.

Kennedy was the last Democrat added to our money. He went on the Half Dollar in 1964.

Before that, it was FDR on the dime in 1946. And before THAT, Woodrow Wilson on the $100,000.00 in 1929.

Eisenhower was the last Republican added to money, added to the dollar in 1971.

[neebob]

54. Why would he do that?

I thought the Bushes didn't like the Reagans. Either way, it would be fun writing stuff like "I had Alzheimer's while I was in office" and "Guess what? I had nothing to do with the breakup of the Soviet Union" and "Buy Boraxo!" and "More blush!" on the bills. Glass half full here.

"Help me, Mummy! I keep getting stuck in a cash register."
"Mr. Gorbachev, tip that cab driver!"
"Mr. Gorbachev, pick up that dry cleaning!"

Now I think I'll be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

[Ernesto]

55. If St Ronnie the Racist shows up on any bill I own,

I'll have a great time defacing it for the shear injoyment of telling the truth about him.

[Pharlo]

57. I think that if the Republicans want to put Reagan's portrait on a bill

they should, at least, award him a denomination reminiscent of his policies and accomplishments --- The three dollar bill comes to mind.

[Bullshot]

59. Geez, they've already named half of the highways,

a major airport and a bunch of buildings after him.

Republicans are so adamant about getting Reagan's name or image on so many things. I think it was the late columnist Mike Royko who noted that the Republicans are quick to do this, because, what president have they had to hang their hat on during the past 100-150 years?

Nixon? Yeah right. Eisenhower was a great general, but his presidency was considered milquetoast. Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge are associated with the Great Depression. Warren Harding's presidency was marred with scandals, mistresses and a questionable death (food poisoning - by his wife?). There's Abe Lincoln, but Royko pointed out that the rednecks and bigots in the Republican party have a hard time associating themselves with a president credited with ending slavery (or words to that effect).

So, in spite of the record deficit spending, the military lapses under his watch and the myths that came with his presidency, Republicans want to latch on to someone, ANYONE and make him into some kind of mythical god.

[TankLV]

60. I will NEVER accept a $10 bill again, if this becomes true.

And I will LOUDLY state my reasons for doing so.

I will not accept something that honors a piece of excrement and a criminal.

On edit:

But it WOULD be fun to get a chance to "improve" on the design with a few choice comments that would circulate in some repuke's wallet and make him look at it all the time!

Such a delima!