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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 05:41 PM
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My problems with the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
Reviewing the vote record it strikes me as very alarming that so few politicians voted against the bill. Unopposed in the Senate and with only 39 nea's in the House. Many of those who denounced the current illegal war in Iraq are on record as supporting this bill which stated intent was the overthrow of the Iraqi government. Why are luminaries like Kennedy,Byrd and Kucinich on record as supporting this bill? Why did President Clinton sign it? In the battle to win undecided to the camp of the left how does reconcile insistent past behavior with stated intent?

The whole concept is predicated on the rather foolish notion of absolute morality. As an increasingly cynical nihilist I believe all societies are simply collections of individuals with varying personal opinions of what is right or wrong. When we denounce the brutality of so called "rogue states" how does our opinion carry more weight than those of the other country or the rest of the world?

We sought the assassination of Saddam Hussein yet if he was to attempt the killing of George H.W. Bush it is a crime. The hypocrisy of U.S. foreign policy is insulting to those like myself seek a consistent and impartial legalistic framework in which we act in the world. During the Cold-war we never sought to destroy North Korea or North Vietnam in regards to their physical existence as sovereign states. The obvious and unspoken reason was to prevent nuclear escalation. Ostensibly we limited our actions to satisfy the demands of international law and the U.N. charter.

Clearly without the monolithic boogie man of the Soviet Union the U.S. is now free to impose economic and cultural hegemony across the globe. If the Bush doctrine was in effect immediately following WWII then in order to act consistently we would have nuked Russia before they the bomb in 1949 and China before they developed theirs in the late 1950's. When and where the U.S. chooses to exercise its power is utterly subjective, biased and at the mercy of political whims and economic interests.

War is illegal because the complete international agreement that no nation itself would ever forfeit its' own sovereignty. These few universal concepts or golden rules are the only ones that should be binding. Far too many differences exist within the prism of religion, culture and tradition for one people to judge another.

This above reason should clearly the conservative viewpoint. Unfortunately many on the right are probably blinded by what I will term "benevolent authoritarianism" which combines elements of Judeo-Christian morality/white-man's burden and belief in free markets. Would any true and selfish libertarian believe in this so called American altruism?

Conversely on the left, why are we not hearing more from the cultural relativists and the opponents of war/governmental overthrow as agents of instability?





H R 4655 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 5-Oct-1998 7:32 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended
BILL TITLE: Establishing a Program to Support a Transition to Democracy in Iraq


Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 202 9 16
Democratic 157 29 20
Independent 1
TOTALS 360 38 36




---- YEAS 360 ---

Ackerman
Aderholt
Allen
Andrews
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker
Baldacci
Ballenger
Barcia
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Barrett (WI)
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Bereuter
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Christensen
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Danner
Davis (FL)
Davis (VA)
Deal
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Delahunt
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DeLay
Deutsch
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dingell
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Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
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Dunn
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Ehrlich
Emerson
Engel
English
Ensign
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
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Gutknecht
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Hastings (WA)
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Hefner
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---- NAYS 38 ---

Abercrombie
Bartlett
Brown (CA)
Carson
Chenoweth
Clay
Conyers
Davis (IL)
Doggett
Everett
Ewing
Ford
Furse
Hastings (FL)
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Mink
Paul
Payne
Pombo
Rivers
Rush
Sabo
Serrano
Skaggs
Skelton
Stark
Towns
Vento
Walsh
Waters



---- NOT VOTING 36 ---

Becerra
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Boehlert
Calvert
Dixon
Frost
Granger
Greenwood
Hansen
Harman
Hinojosa
Kennelly
McDade
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Roybal-Allard
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Schaefer, Dan
Shuster
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Young (FL)

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