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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:53 AM
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The Death of John Kennedy - why Nixon resigned.
???-wow. this is interesting. or not. anyone else know anything about this? so many conspiracies, so little time!
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Nixon resigned over an obstruction of justice charge (with some of the legal groundwork prepared by a young Hillary Rodham). Nixon resigned gracefully, the media declared the incident over and Gerald Ford declared that it was time to "put the whole affair behind us and move forward". This was done because the last thing anyone wanted in Washington D.C. was an impeachment trial. Even Nixon's worst enemies dared not allow it. The reasoning was simple. Sooner or later, someone would ask the following question.

"Why, when Nixon's re-election was a study in foregone conclusions, was it necessary to break into the DNC headquarters at the Watergate?"

The answer to that question, never asked by politician, never asked by a servile media, was THE dark secret that could not be revealed; the secret that would have brought down the entire government!

Years later, it did come out what had been the motive for the break-in. It was connected to what Nixon called "Hanky Panky" on the White House tapes.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/nixon.html
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:57 AM
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1. And why doesn't George Bush Sr not remember why he was in Dallas
on November 22 '63?
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:02 AM
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2. yah, forgot about that tidbit too. oiks there's lots of murkiness around
that ugly family and their friends.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:03 AM
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3. what was Bush Sr's. official 'job' in '63?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:23 PM
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11. It appears he was Chairman of the Harris County (TX) Republican Party.
Houston is in Harris County.


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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:11 AM
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4. Wanna see something
that'll lift your eyebrows over the back of your head?

E Howard Hunt playing raconteur, in a recent Slate interview. Spills the details on all sorts of cold war spookery, the Guatamalan coup, Bay of Pigs, death of Che, etc. Then at the end:
Slate: I know there is a conspiracy theory saying that David Atlee Phillips—the Miami CIA station chief—was involved with the assassination of JFK.

Hunt: (Visibly uncomfortable) I have no comment.

Slate: I know you hired him early on, to work with you in Mexico, to help with Guatemala propaganda.

Hunt: He was one of the best briefers I ever saw.

Slate: And there were even conspiracy theories about you being in Dallas the day JFK was killed.

Hunt: No comment.

Laura Hunt: Howard says he wasn't, and I believe him.

http://www.slate.com/Default.aspx?id=2107718&


Hmmmmm....
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:20 AM
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5. the reason why - follow the money - huge bigass money...
"On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: etc.

http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkfedreserve.shtml
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:33 AM
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7. eyebrows lifted! nt
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:20 AM
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6. I've been suspecting something like this for some time.
I can't get it all quite straight in my head but there is something there, I can smell it. There is a connection between Watergate and the JFK assassination. Nixon knew what LBJ did not.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:14 PM
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8. and of course, the rumors
that it was the reason Nixon caused the 17 and a half minute gap on his tape.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:31 PM
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9. That is interesting.
n/t
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:20 PM
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10. kickers
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:26 PM
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12. I know what the "hanky panky" was...
seriously. They were trying to get the goods on a top DNC official who was having an affair with the daughter of a prominent Dem. senator. It was his phone that they were trying to bug.

I know this because I was in DC then and knew all the parties involved.

This has been suggested now and again over the years but it never was really pursued, probably because it was a really, really stupid reason for a President to get himself ousted from office.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:40 PM
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13. "The Bay of Pigs thing"
Just posted about this on my blog a few days ago.

Post-Watergate, when it looked like some concession to the truth on the JFK assassination was unavoidable, the CIA floated the "problem" of Hunt's presence in Dallas as a possible limited hangout for the involvement of "rogue elements" of the Agency conspiring in Kennedy's murder. He lost a libel suit in 1978 - the jury was convinced he was lying; that he had indeed been in Dallas on November 22. The trial is the subject of Mark Lane's Plausible Denial.

From Watergate's "smoking gun" tape of June 23 1972, it's evident that Nixon feared what an investigation could reveal about Hunt:

Of course, this is a, this is a Hunt, you will- that will uncover a lot of things. You open that scab there's a hell of a lot of things and that we just feel that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further. This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves.

But that's not the most interesting revelation on the tape.

HR Haldeman, in his book The Ends of Power, cites several conversations where Nixon expressed concern about the Watergate affair becoming public knowledge and where this exposure might lead. Haldeman writes that he was puzzled when Nixon said, "'Tell Ehrlichman this whole group of Cubans (involved in the break-in) is tied to the Bay of Pigs.' After a pause I said, 'The Bay of Pigs? What does that have to do with this ?' But Nixon merely said, 'Ehrlichman will know what I mean,' and dropped the subject."

Later in the book, he reveals that he discovered that Nixon spoke in code about Kennedy's murder. He writes that Nixon's code for the assassination was "the Bay of Pigs."

Now here's Nixon again on the tape:

When you get in these people when you...get these people in, say: 'Look, the problem is that this will open the whole, the whole Bay of Pigs thing, and the President just feels that" ah, without going into the details... don't, don't lie to them to the extent to say there is no involvement, but just say this is sort of a comedy of errors, bizarre, without getting into it, "the President believes that it is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah because these people are plugging for, for keeps and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for the country, don't go any further into this case," period!

Over and over on the tapes, Nixon talks about Hunt, the Cubans, the Texans, and the "Bay of Pigs thing."

See what's going on here?

Nixon is directing Haldeman to warn the FBI off probing Watergate because it'll touch Hunt, and that could reopen the Kennedy assassination. He expects the FBI, since it has a vested interest in perpetuating the cover up, not to pry any further for the good of the country.

some more here:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/10/ballad-of-eduardo.html
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