Hilariously frightening freeper comment

[rumguy]

"I will not let myself become jaded or forget what these pieces of sh-t do. When I feel like it isn't that big of a deal, I activate my real time program and watch a beheading or two, or listen to Darryl Worley or Toby Keith. I do not want to forget, I will never let myself forget or become jaded. As Worley said, we had 3000+ neighbors in those towers and the choice they were given was to burn or jump. I want to give the same choice to Islamofacists thoughout the world.

10 posted on 10/10/2004 8:12:38 AM PDT by MikeAbboud"

This guy is fairly new to FR. I thought this was perhaps subtle satire at first, but I don't believe it is - he's the one who started the thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240775/posts

[Jack_Dawson]

1. See why I don't watch Beheadings?

Nice company to keep...

[cornermouse]

2. Ask him when he's going to sign up to fight in Iraq.

And while you're at it, ask him why Worley and Keith haven't joined up to fight in Iraq. Tell him it has become clear that Bush is desperate enough that age is not an excuse any more.

[friesianrider]

62. NO SHIT!!

If he's so friggin ticked off, tell him to go sign up for Iraq. Soldiers are literally DYING for his help. And "I'll put a foot up your ass" Toby Keith can do the same. No, he's rather spout off about what a great and worthy war this is -- so long as it's someone else getting shot at everyday and not his sorry ass.

What a fucking bunch of chickenhawks.

[havocmom]

3. Does anger cause a hormone to be released into the blood stream?

Can their be people addicted to it like some are addicted to adrenalin?
Seems there are just some people who are so in love with anger they will dose themselves to keep it going.

Damned hate junkies. And the only ones who get any help are the ones who go far enough to get in trouble with the law and sentenced to anger management therapy. But does that really get to the root of the addiction to anger?

[TrustingDog]

5. they'll always need an 'ism' to justify their hate and violent nature.

ignorant fools don't know they're being so easily used by their masters

[Steelangel]

10. Indeed!

[TrustingDog]

14. they hate...

communism (socialism) because you just can't have the filthy masses of rabble getting all uppity. Neither feminists - back to the kitchen women, shut yer mouth!

it's so friggen transparent.

[Downtown Hound]

4. Nutin' like a nice beheadin'

to get the old patriotic juices flowing, eh?

[Name removed]

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[Misunderestimator]

8. Dang, that was a difficult read.... and uh... welcome to DU

So.... basically you're saying that Bush was right to attack Iraq, correct? :eyes:

[J6ash]

13. Was he right?

Well I ahve looked to our next president for guidance on this issue and his idea that we could have waited longer and enlisted more help flys.

But the FACT that our allies and interlocutors were "on the take" certainly would have made that a hard hill to climb.
On the other hand when I look at the global chess board I see Iraq. Right in the middle of the Arab-Moslem world.
I see the Baathists and their arab-unity message. I see Saddam reaching out opporti=nuistically to militabt Islam and terorists, paying off the families of suicide bombers sheltering Palestinians and Criminals like the Abu boys etc.
And I think as a country in turmoil it WAS a target in al =qaeadas future.
A good place to attack Saudi from and band togetther with Iran and syria.
a good place to start the work of shutting down the pumping of mohammeds holy oil.

And I hear JFK saying we neeed more special forces.
It is the way to go.
But then everyone complains about how this or that is illegal or frowned upon by the Hague and a I think " will that good plan look any more legal?"
No but it is far cheaper.

Whay have they not attacked us again?
Because they are afraid of what we will do (up to and including attacking ur arab neighbors in the street, an activity that was REALLY very attenuated in late 01).

I think when Kerry said "global test" he was going to say "sniff test" and that is whats needed.

But things are so bollixed up now that we actually should withdraw form everywhere, put all our money into modernization and hi tech and restoring the manufacturing base of our country as well as our standard of life ( Bush says be competeitive HRRRMPH)
Because we havve slipped.
After 50 years of US protection at incalcualble costs, our european friends have (or seem to have) Socialized medicine, living wage , month long vacations and are palnning a mission to Mars!
Every time you buy a T-Shirt the chines see funding for their Moon landing and colony project.
I do not want My daughter to look up in the sky and see a foriegn country.
So my opinions are changing all the time but again it is soo F&&ked up now that we should sut back and wait for them to ask for help/
Does that clarify things.?
Not much

[Misunderestimator]

16. Right... not much.

Chines? Look up in the sky and see a foreign country? You say a few things that make sense, but mainly it all just sounds like xenophobia.

[J6ash]

19. xena girl warrior

I am not extra xenophobic.
I just have a natural inclination to continue to see my country as a leader in this world.
I have always had an interest in the future and space travel and awith the balance of trade and all that UI ahev mentioned so far I see this slippage and I hate it.
By the same token I see our image and our Ideals as the "good guy" also slipping and I hate that.
But sometimes the good guy does have to kick some ass.
Ask Roy Rogers.

[DrWeird]

21. How many Iraqi children did Roy Rogers rape?

nt

[J6ash]

24. Rapers

Who would want to rape an Iraqi child?
any who do should face firing squads.
I do think most of our people aare better than that.
In 1941 the Japanes bombed Pearl.
Dad joined up and did the pacific tour for 4 years.
Should we have laid back and said "They won;t do that again" ?
Dad fought and bled and liberated lots of small islands and atolls across the pacific.
One of them was Mindanao.
recently the Phillipine government pretty much gave mindanao to the Islamists.
Now it will have to be liberated again.
They used to be Bhuddists in Indonesia.
And there used to be Bhuddists in Afghanistan.
You really have to think ahead.
Think "islamic republic of Guatemala" see how that sits.
I am sorry if I sound fearful and xenophobic and can't just have a beer and watch a football game.
These guys are serious and John Kerry knows it thank god.

[DrWeird]

25. US troops raped Iraqi children.

And men and women.

They haven't faced a firing squad yet. Nor has Rumsfeld, who ordered the torture.

"islamic republic of Guatemala"

Sounds fine to me. But then I'm not an anti-Islamic bigot.

[J6ash]

27. "islamic republic of Guatemala" "islamic republic of Guatemala" sounds fin

If that sounds fine to you , then you are an idiot.
How about "cancer on your toe" does that sound fine to you?

You can cast me as a bigot if you like but I guarantee I have more to do with more culturally diverse foks here in the garden state than you do.
So I will take the abuse and stick to my guns.
You are missing the concept and should turn your attention away from M. Moore and
A: go talk to some Moslems. hear their shit. Sorry I have already.
B; Read their screed. You have a connection Use it!

[DrWeird]

29. Islam = cancer?

Sounds like bigotry to me.

" I have more to do with more culturally diverse foks here in the garden state than you do."

More to do? As in hate them?

"Go talk to some moslems. Hear their shit. Sorry I have already."

There's a mosque a block down the street from me. A devout muslim lives in my apartment complex. Very nice people. If I were, say, stuck on an airplane for nine hours I'd rather be sitting next to him then some random bigot from New Jersey.

"Go read their screed"

You mean the Old Testament of the Bible? Or the new one?

[Name removed]

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[DrWeird]

36. Actually, it didnt't save your daddy.

Because Japan was ready to surrender without use of atomic weapons.

Now, as for terrorism, I really don't see a difference between dropping an atomic bomb on a civilian population as opposed to flying a plane into a civilian building, with the exception being that the former is worse. If you're going to make the "but Hiroshima saved American lives" arguement, you can just as easily say 9-11 saved thousands of Arab men from dying in an invasion of New York.

But that's a topic for another thread.

"If you would rather be stuck on a plane with them than me so be it, just jhope it's not for 84 days like in '71 or like TWA875 in 85
Or like any of those nice hijackings of Ariana Airlines in late 99-early 2000
which freed militants too dangerous for the Taliban."

I'm sure it wouldn't be. There's no more reason to fear muslims on airplanes, then white christian males with rental trucks. You'd have to be a complete bigot to be afraid of muslims on airplanes.

"as to their screed , I am not referring to anuyone's religious texts"

Sure you were.

[Downtown Hound]

38. Tose Paleytinians are the nisest peepul.

Tooday in Kin ter gar ten we mad neet littul puppets.

Dude, are you one of those left behind children that Bush has yet to rescue?

[DrWeird]

39. LOL

He's a graduate of the George W. Bush School of Debating.

[karlrschneider]

42. I don't believe this fellow is a moran at all, just drunk. Let's give him

a chance. :D

[DrWeird]

44. He may be drunk.

But they're hardly mutually exclusive.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

40. How fo you say "Buh-bye" in Arabic?

Did someone forget their meds today? :eyes:

[Misunderestimator]

55. LOL

:hi: Nice to see ya.

[Misunderestimator]

57. Oh MY.... You are now defending our nuking of Hiroshima!!!

This is really too much!

[Mandate My Ass]

11. So in other words...

they want to invade our country, kill our leaders, and convert us all to Islam? Right?

They didn't manage to accomplish any one of those three goals on 9/11, but if you say so.:eyes:

[J6ash]

30. convert us all to Islam? Right?

Actually yes.
And they say so.
They didn't accomplish that on 9/11 no but they got us fucked up real good.
And who says they are done here?
You? That is not good enough, they have other plans.
Thsi is a long range thing.
It could take up to a century .
You think in too short of a scale to imagine this but it exists as a concept and an action plan.

Sorry

[Andy_Stephenson]

63. Good lord...

the koolaide is strong this week.

:eyes:

[Downtown Hound]

12. First of all,

you write like an incoherent third grader. (binn Laden, Iforgive)?

Second of all, ah geez, you know, if you don't want to see your citizens get beheaded by Iraqis, here's an idea: DON"T INVADE THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY!

And if you even try to invoke 9-11 in response to that, you're going on my ignore list for being a fucktard. Say it with me, "Iraq. 9-11. NO CONNECTION. Iraq. 9-11. NO CONNECTION.

If you're really worried about the Arabs forming a single state and dragging you out of your home in the middle of the night and forcing you to read the Koran or receive a sword to the back of the neck, well then, you're an idiot. But even if you are, our invasion of Iraq has only ignited the flames of Islamic radicalism even more, and any yokel that watches beheadings and listens to jingoistic music from moronic country singers is well, a yokel.

Stop living in fear. Stop cowering at the TV every time they mention the word Arab. Stop doing Bush's work for him. You are being lied to. You are being played. You are doing their work for them. Do us all a favor and stop now.

[J6ash]

17. Non specific ravings

Yes I type badly.
So Sorry .
I never said Iraq was connected to 9/11.
But they were looking at an alliance with al qaeda.
This is a much bigger game than waiting for tit and making sure you only do tat.
If you don't think that they want an empire of sorts then it is you my friend who is disconnected.
Kicking some ass certainly stirred the hornets nest, but they were hornets before they were stirred.
Doing Iraq in a hurry at large expense with no help was a big mistake, but please try to remember that
we have had a carrtier group flying missions over Iraq night and day for twelve years.
Every two weeks they would put up a new radar (german) and we would bomb it.
Pres. Clinton Bombed their capitol in an effort to unseat Saddam the easy way.
This was not an innocent unconnected country with whom everyone had good realtions.

Nevertheless It has not worked out well, did not make the desired point and has cost several bundles more than I would have been willing to shell out .
Sorry if my opinion is complex compared to my typing.

[DrWeird]

23. There's no evidence they were "looking for an alliance'

What excuse are you using for not going and enlisting?

[Downtown Hound]

28. "Kicking some ass stirred the hornet's nest?"

Kicking some ass. In case you haven't noticed, the world's most powerful military, the product of decades of building and trillions of dollars, is slowly being taken apart one piece at a time by AK-47's, RPG's, homemade bombs, and a people with a strong sense of right. We haven't kicked anyone's ass. We're getting our ass kicked.

Your big complaint about the Iraq War seems to be that it has cost too much, and not that it was morally wrong to invade a sovereign nation that never attacked us and posed no threat. Sorry, but, not impressed. I'd actually respect you more if you at least were willing to see it through to the end. But your current attitude is one of, well it's okay to commit war crimes, but only if we don't have to pay lot's of money for them.

Yes, it was an innocent country. Saddam Hussein was a murderous thug, but his people? They were innocent. Those children that fell victim to our "smart" bombs, who had their legs blown off, their skulls shattered, who watched their parents burned alive in front of them, they were innocent. And this bullshit about how Saddam was planning an alliance with Al Queda. Hmm.. let's see. The argument of the pro war side seems to have gone from, Saddam had WMD to Saddam hid his WMD to Saddam was one day going to produce WMD. And now it's gone from he had an alliance with Al Queda to he was going to form one?

Your bullshit is wearing thin. Actually it wore thin some time ago, now it's just becoming tiresome.

[nickgutierrez]

35. No.

There's no way Saddam and al Qaeda were going to form an alliance. Saddam's Iraq was secular, not a Muslim state, and Osama was not about to side with a secular nation, no matter the enemy. Osama and Saddam were more likely to kill each other than form an alliance, and that was always the case: Osama once called Saddam an 'infidel' and marked him as one that needed to be killed.

Furthermore, Osama has always used the United States as the example of Western imperialism, and predicted that the US would invade a Muslim nation without cause. US invades Iraq, Osama gains tons of recruits. The invasion of Iraq did us no good, and in fact did us irreparable harm.

[the_outsider]

31. you are being played.. please be careful not to fall into right-wing traps

I think the root of your misunderstanding is -
"Nor is it about some "grievances" that they wish redressed. All window dressing."
There are genuine grievances. You need to read up a little bit on middle east history.The map of the middle east as we know it today was created by the colonial powers after the Ottoman empire was defeated in the first world war. Since then the US and British oil lobby (and the French to some extent) have decided the politics of middle east. For them, an authoritarian dictator is always a lot easier to manage(bribe/coerce/corrupt) than a progressive democratic government. The first thing such a government will do is to nationalize the oil interest and use oil money for the welfare of its own citizens. Consequently any such progressive movement or government in the middle east has always been resisted and crushed with active or passive help of US and European governments.
For example Saddam and the bath party were supported by CIA and Us government to oppose Qassim who was a progressive and had plans of nationalizing oil interests. Add to this US support to Israel in whatever they do to crush the Palestinians. This has been going on for decades and it's a bit racist/colonialist to ignore this and blame everything on their culture and religion. As far as I know, suicide bombing is not a preferred career choice.

[the_outsider]

37. Hindus and India

You bring up an interesting talking point and you are not aware that it actually works against your generalized "evil Islam" theory. I do not how much you know about Indian history and how familiar you are with progressive Islamic traditions like Sufism. Islamic rulers ruled majority of India between 1300s and 1700s. If Islam by definition was as intolerant evil as you describe, there would have been a genocide of all Hindus. But 80% of Indian population is still Hindus (800 million) and India still has 150 million muslims and they have been living together for centuries - the last 57 years of it has been in a democratic and secular country. Current Indian president is a Muslim and there has been more Muslim presidents before him.

When the Islamic religion spread in Asia in the middle ages, a lot of the conversion that happened was spontaneous and the people who were converted were racially and culturally identical to the people who did not and they did not immediately kill each other. They lived together sharing and enriching both cultural heritages.

Most of the problems started to happen in the last couple of centuries when the colonialists (mostly the British and lately US corporate interest) applied their "divide and conquer" rules and drew arbitrary maps to control natural resources. For example,when the British gave up their Indian empire, they actively encouraged to create Pakistan even though majority of Indian Muslims were against it. Even today there are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. The rationale behind that move was to weaken an emerging democratic country which will be an economic force to reckon and also to have an alternate route to Arabian Sea from gas and oil-rich central Asia. Those pipelines explain why a corrupt dictator like Musharaaf can be a friend of US government even after ISI helped to install the Taliban government and Al-Qaeda movement.

Similarly an inherently weak and unstable country Iraq was created after the first world war with three large diverse ethnic groups - Shias, Sunnis and Kurds who can be played against each other. The access from Iraq to Persian gulf was blocked by creating an emir state Kuwait which is a virtual client state of UK and US.

Huntington's "clash of civilizations", "evil Islam", "us" vs "them", "all Muslims are jihadists" are the real "window dressings". Please do not fall prey to those bulls.

[Nordic]

6. a "five minute hate" isn't enough for this guy

obviously hating people somehow validates his otherwise worthless miserable life.

[ladybugg33]

9. Most of the people in the red states hated people in NYC before 9/11

and they hated them for the same reasons they now claim to hate all Dems. Their compassion is hollow to me.

[Nay]

22. Yeah, ladybugg, why all the love now? The biggest thing to change

after 9/11 ("everything changed," remember?) was that the yokels all of sudden were weeping and moaning over a bunch of folks who, on 9/10, they called "libruls, Jew bankers, shifty furriners, paper shufflers, moneylenders, snobs, effete pointyheads, rude assholes, homo artists,welfare cheats," etc., etc.

Quite a switch, eh?

[Zorra]

15. I've encountered a large number of republicans that blindly hate Muslims.

Most of these republicans say that they would like to see them all killed.

True story, and very sad.

[J6ash]

18. killed

You can't kill 1.4 billion people.
Statistically most of them HAve to be nice people and I have no breif against Islam or it's adherents other than the militants and their supporters.

[DrWeird]

20. How about militant christians and their supporters?

After all, they've done a pretty bang-up job of murdering a good 14,000 very nice muslims.

[Misunderestimator]

26. From your posts on this thread it sounds like you DO have a beaf (I guess

that's what you meant) against Islam and Muslims in general. And our "kicking ass" as you suggest is turning those "nice people" you say they must mostly be into people who hate us. How does that help?

[J6ash]

32. I meant Brief but beaf is good too

Well in the sense that you see it it doesn't help, but
to an extent there is utilty in saying "here we are come and get it"
It gets it over quicker which could be why we see such an upturn.
But it isn't just in Iraq, this upturn is it.?

No they attack Russia in order to establish the "islamic republic of Chechnya"
They attack in Jakarta towards the day of the iSlamic republic of Indonesia.
They attack Bali and have eyes for Singapore and Maylasia.
Phillipines is going one ISland at a time and that is a doorway to central america.
Thailand is flat out under attack.
Sudan is now characterized as "Arab Islamists killing Black african christians"
Turkey has it's democracy uder fire.
Saudi is under attack .

as V. Putin said. "Don't think that even converting will save you beacuse you won't be good enough at it for them.

[DrWeird]

33. Putin said all that, did he?

link?

[J6ash]

45. he did

a paraphrase

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/787463/posts

His original off the cuff comments are HARD to find.
I think they have been cleansed.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/787463/posts

Policy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/787463/posts

What you should check out

http://www.islamic-world.net/

dip!

[DrWeird]

46. My oh my.

Freerepublic as reference material.

What a surprise.

[J6ash]

49. freerepublic

I don't even pay attention. Just the facts and I an not subscribing to the moscow times where these off the cuff coments have been dissappeared anyway.

[DrWeird]

50. Just an amazing coincidence then?

fascinating.

[Misunderestimator]

54. LMAO... That is TOO Funny.... What a wonderful source.

:eyes:

[DrWeird]

56. And the original source is WorldNetDaily.

That's like linking a story from the Pioneer fund posted at Stormfront.

This has got to be the single most amature attempt I've ever seen during my years here.

[Misunderestimator]

58. I would have to agree with you.... it's really fascinating watching it...

and is akin to watching Bush in the debates. Incoherence and utter stupidity... I fear the synapses have lost their connection.

[DrWeird]

59. To bad he's not quicker with responding.

Perhaps he types with one finger?

[Misunderestimator]

60. It would appear that way....

Or perhaps he can't navigate back to the thread again... or maybe he just passed out.

[karlrschneider]

41. Come back and read this thread tomorrow when you're sober.

I'm serious...you're obviously no dummy but it's hard to decipher the double-six-pack typing. Anyway, welcome (I think) to DU. Here's one more: :toast:

[Misunderestimator]

43. You meant "brief".... I don't get it.

"I have no breif against Islam..." What does that mean?

And yeah, I'd like to see where Putin said that. Everything you just said confirms your xenophobia. Sanctions against Iraq were working quite well (and too well since they caused a lot of collateral damage as well), and sanctions against others have worked in the past, and would in the future. Invading a country that had no weapons and was no threat to us has severely crippled our military, and the hope of keeping men and women interested in being recruited into it. We are NOW weaker and more susceptible to all your fear of violence than we ever were.

[J6ash]

47. brief

definition
Law.
a. A formal outline listing main contentions along with supporting evidence and documentation.
b. A document containing all the facts and points of law pertinent to a specific case, filed by an attorney before arguing the case in court.

putz/
Yes I am a xenophobe.
Bow before the Xeno!!!!
Name-callers!

[DrWeird]

48. Hang on a bit.

You're calling us "name-callers?"

[J6ash]

51. name-callers

You are calling me a bigot a xenophobe, stupid etc.
I haven's aclled but one or two people idiots.
NAME CALLERS!

[DrWeird]

52. Well, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Btw: idiot? dip? putz?

Are you aware of the definition of the word "hypocrite?"

[RetroLounge]

61. I bet you don't last too much longer...

of course, your mommie may call you for dinner soon anyhow.

RL

[Misunderestimator]

53. Gee... thanks for the definition.... still makes no sense in the context

you used it. And most of what you say makes no sense. The best written thing you've posted is the definition for "brief."