can anyone give me a list of good movies to show my undecided friends

[movie_girl99]

I have F/911, Uncovered: Truth about the iraq War, Outfoxed and Up River: The long War of John Kerry. I know there are others though....

[WI_DEM]

1. If seeing all the movies you list can't do the trick

I don't know what can!!

[Beam Me Up]

2. "Hijacking Catastrophy" & "The End of Suburbia"

Will put them over the edge. I've seen it happen.

[movie_girl99]

3. Thanks!

[parkening]

4. It's my suspicion

that if you still have undecided friends, with two such opposite candidates, that you won't be able to pull them away from their twelfth viewing of "Dumb and Dumber" to get them to watch a documentary.

There is nothing honorable or good about an intentionally uninformed populace voting. Better they stay home.

[wolfgirl]

5. HBO flick -

Path to War....the similarities are truly frightening!

[IkeWarnedUs]

6. "Hijacking Catastrophe" and "Constructing Public Opinion"

Both made by the Media Education Foundation.

I wish every American could see, "Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear and the Selling of American Empire." It tells how Paul Wolfowitz first authored a plan for America to take advantage of being the world's only super power and take over and run the world. He did that while working at the Pentagon during the first Bush administration while working under Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney and Deputy Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld. Poppy said it was too radical and the plan was withdrawn. The gang formed the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) in 1997 and were the force behind Clinton's decision to withdraw the inspectors and start bombing Iraq in 1998. In September 2000 they issued a report that was a re-write of Wolfowitz' earlier plan to build an American Empire. The movie goes on to talk about how the Bush administration has used 9/11 to make their dream come true.

It makes these points with news clips, interviews and quotes from official documents. Very credible.

The other movie, "Constructing Public Opinion: How politicians and the media misrepresent the public," discusses the ways the media distorts and manipulates the "news" to promote an agenda. From the box: "Professor Juistin Lewis demonstrates how public opinion polls are used by the media to not just reflect what Americans think, but to actually construct public opinion itself. Exploding the myth that most Americans are moderate or conservative, Constructing Public Opinion shows the way in which political elites help to promote the military industrial complex."

Hijacking Catastrophe has its own website with substantial film clips and ordering info ($19.95 DVD or VHS). On the site is an icon that says "Get More Political VHS & DVD's" where you can find Constructing Public Opinion ($29.95 DVD or VHS).

http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.com/

[coalition_unwilling]

7. A bit off the beaten track, but I'd vote for "Casualties of War"

A schmaltzy plot and caricatures as characters BUT . . .

For a brief instant, you get to see what war looks like through the eyes of one of its victims (in this case, the girl abducted and raped by American forces in Vietnam).

I'm not sure how De Palma pulled it off, but it hit me in a way that no other Vietnam War movie has so far (and I've seen most)

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. Orwell Rolls in his Grave

Bush's Brain.

The Hunting of the President

Bush Family Fortunes (Greg Palast)

Unprecedented

Unconstitutuional (The 3rd in the series of Uncovered, Unprecedented and Unconstitutional)

[IkeWarnedUs]

9. A good movie for anyone with draft age relatives

Its called "The War at Home" and stars Emilio Estevez, Martin Sheen and Kathy Bates. It is the story of soldier just back from Viet Nam who is dealing with flashbacks and his family, who have no concept of what he went through.

I stumbled across this on HBO not long ago. It came out in 1996, but I hadn't heard of it. Very, very powerful and graphic depiction of the realities of war and its impact on the soldiers called on to fight and their families.

I wouldn't necessarily include it with the others, but I saved it to share with my nephew and his friends, some of whom were thinking about enlisting.

[oldlady]

10. The Fog of War

great film (as are all the others you've listed) I second the Hijacking Catastrophe comments!

[lostnfound]

11. The Control Room. nt