can KERRY Push bush over the edge IN THE NEXT DEBATE ?

[dave502d]

Suggest that Bush has transferred his compulsion for drink to a compulsion for war.
(Comment: Many psychologists believe that Bush exhibits the character defects of an alcoholic who stopped drinking but never got treatment.)


Call him a mama's boy
(Comment: Bush always sought primary approval from Barbara.)


Say that no matter what he does, that Jeb will always be his daddy's favorite.
(Comment: Daddy and mommy Bush never really expected George Jr. to amount to much.)


Tell him that even if he wins this election, that he still won't be able to kill his father and marry his mother.
(Comment: Psychologists have suggested that Bush exhibits a classic Oedipal complex)


Tell him that he will never be the man that his father was.
(Comment: At least George Sr. knew how to lie his way into building a coalition.)


Do Bush's old Yale cheer, better than he did it.
(Comment: Bush was a cheerleader at Yale)


Use the phrase "All hat, no cattle."
(Comment: A Texas phrase which means, all talk, no substance.)


Re-state that his health plan would offer the same coverage available to elected officials. Add that it would provide coverage even for the sorts of drugs that Bush is taking.
(Comment: There has been a rumor for several months that Bush has been taking anti-depressants. He must be on something.)


Taunt him into telling the "Trifecta" joke.
(Comment: Bush claims to have said during the 2000 campaign (actually it was Gore that said it) that he would not create deficit spending unless faced with a recession, a national emergency and a war and then made a joke saying "Lucky me, I hit the trifecta.")


Remind him of that the 6th commandment is "Thou shalt not kill."
(Comment: Bush presided over 155 executions while Governor of Texas, by far the most state sponsored killing of any governor.)


Tell a vague story using a horses as a central theme and say that Bush must understand what he means from his experiences with horses at his ranch.
(Comment: Bush is supposedly afraid of horses and has never ridden one.)


Tell a story about trial lawyers suing pretzel manufacturers who did not warn consumers that it was dangerous to eat their product while watching football.
(Comment: Bush was rendered unconscious after choking on a pretzel while watching football.)


Tell a story about trial lawyers suing bicycle manufacturers who did not warn consumers that it was necessary to whistle show tunes while using their product.
(Comment: Bush took a tumble on his bike in 2004. Press secretary McClellan blamed wet conditions. even though it hadn't rained in over a week. McClellan added that when Bush rode a bicycle, he "wasn't just whistling show tunes." Well now we know he should have been.)


Look at his watch repeated and then say "it's time for Bush to go."
(Comment: Bush Sr. looked at his watch repeatedly during one of the 1992 debates. Kerry could twist this around to make a positive impact.)


Suggest that Bush's dog spot died of a broken heart because Bush failed to listen to him about Iraq.
(Comment: Bush family pet, Spot died in 2004, RIP.)


Suggest that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction might be found in the same place as the millions of lost American jobs.
(Comment: Bush is the first president to actually lose jobs during his term. The Bush tax cuts where somehow supposed to produce 5.5 million jobs by Nov. 2004, but so far there have only been less than a million new jobs, not enough to even keep up with population growth.)


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[unblock]

1. the best one would be "bush sr.'s iraq war, now THAT was a coalition"

but this ain't your daddy's iraq war!

[Kierkegaard]

2. He did it in the last two, why not go 3 for 3?

Hell, Smuggins has been on the edge since '68 when he thought he might have to step up and be a man. Lucky for him, his family had piles of money, so he got to be a rich and safe snot-nosed asshole.


These guys weren't that lucky

[readmylips]

3. Your Dad, President Bush Sr. knew the meaning of hard work....

that phrase alone will send junior spinning. He hates to be seen as lesser than his daddy. He hates that his daddy is taller and hardworking.

[4morewars]

4. OR.....

Senator Kerry could just stick to the issues ! There is more than enough material in the failures of the bush* administration. It is not too hard to push somone over the edge, when they are teetering on the brink !

[tom_paine]

5. Doubtful. Plus, Kerry cannot cross that line himself in trying to do it

Doubtful. Doubtful it is even being seruously considered.

[opihimoimoi]

6. Bush is a LOSER, He has lost Pubs Credibility, the Nations Respect, the

Worlds compassion.

He doesn't have Sosas autographed baseballs does he??

He is a loser trying to make others look worse...like he is the better choice....but it is HE that is the Problem...86 the dude...

[nostamj]

7. he was a cheerleader at Andover, not Yale

and, frankly, these ideas are overall lame and beneath Kerry.

and, he doesn't need any of them to beat him.

[oscar111]

8. "pet goat" "you read My Pet Goat after you were told america is under

attack ... and so you failed to order planes to circle the Pentagon, which led to the crash there killing a general and {dozens of ?} others."

"you read my pet goat, and just froze for seven minutes, in total fear. While our country was under attack. You are a total turkey".

THat ought to rattle bush.

[edbermac]

9. Kerry better drop the big one on GW Wednesday night...

Time to put him away, John...

:nuke:

[Sparkle]

10. I hope he does.

I just loved that line that Kerry said: "We did something that you couldn't do, Mr. President, and that's BALANCE THE BUDGET!"

Bush just said there, grinding his teeth. Lmao!

[Dulcinea]

11. Maybe "All hat, no cattle"

But the rest of those won't play well with the public. They'll just make Kerry look petty. Why sink to Boy George's level?

[skygazer]

12. Kerry has managed to rattle Bush's cage just fine

And without using tactics like you suggest which would only give ammo to the GOP spinmeisters and make him sound like a vengeful little boy (which is what Bush is, not Kerry).

[autorank]

13. Just continue momentum from Debate 2

More people want Bush out than are voting for Kerry (as far as we can tell). Thanks to the whore media, the debates are Kerry's only real chance to make his case to a broad public. Therefore, he needs to continue making the case that he is a smart, strong, and honest political leader. As he does this, with time ticking away, * will melt down on his own. No need for psyops here, as fun as it is to think about it.
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HOWEVER, if you want to fantasize about psyops, here is a gem from user "incapsulated" suggesting what should be fed into *'s earpiece in the next debate:

"Daddy never loved you...

"You know it's true. He love's Jeb best. You were always a disappointment. To the whole family, really. Why not just accept it? You're a loser. Boy, I bet you could go for a drink right now... a.. nice.. tall... cool...beer... It's right outside. Waiting for you.... Go get it, you deserve it... and maybe a snort too... why not... didn't you do your best? Didn't you do what you were told? And for what? Save the world, ha! What a joke... You coulda been Baseball Commissioner... Nobody let's you do what you want to do... but I say go for it! Drink that beer! Fuck them all! Fuck this debate shit... Daddy never loved you..."

[TahitiNut]

14. Kerry should keep mentioning the "Cheney/Bush administration" and then ...

... correct himself. Speak about Georgie, not to Georgie - except patiently, as one would to a child. (Remember, Dimson only referred to Kerry as 'my opponent' - a thing, not a person; possessive. Do the same to him; even more so.)

Again, Fartface McFascist suffers (enjoys?) from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Subtle ridicule, marginalization, and (most importantly) no reaction directly to him is the most likely to get him to melt down.

I believe the Mendacious Moran came close to unglued in the 'town hall' significantly because there were just enough folks in the front rows who leaned back and regarded him with unsmiling disdain. He feeds on sycophants. But even that feast (Narcissistic Supply) isn't enough to sate his pathological appetite.

The more his very existence is trivialized, the more he'll lose it.

[camero]

15. Call him Herbert Hoover

Kerry brings up the fact that he's the first president in 72 years to lose jobs isn't gonna cut it when American's don't have anything to compare it to. Tell them he's the first since Hoover.

That oughta get him to flip his lid.

[Kookaburra]

16. I thought he had ...

I fully expected to see the chimp lunge for Kerry's throat Friday night. Was very surprised he didn't. Maybe he knew Kerry could whoop his a$$.

[porphyrian]

17. "You're just a big, fat, whining pussy, aren't you?"

That'd get him swinging.

[skypilot]

18. Handshake.

I think that if Kerry does that handshake thing again where he pulls George in close to him and doesn't let go of his hand, George might go off the deep end. Kerry did it on Friday and when he finally let go of George's hand George looked as though he couldn't get away from Kerry fast enough. It was a very funny start to the evening.

[Lerkfish]

19. exactly--personal space. I saw the "bubble" being discussed before

last friday's debate...the anchor was actually showing the dotted white line that the opponents were not supposed to cross...kind of like Les Nessman on WKRP in Cincinnati.

I think Bush is literally scared to be touched by Kerry, and is frightened of him, which he rebroadcasts out as disdain. I saw the beginning of the debate again, and when Bush had to look back and say "senator", you could see him seething.

I think what others have suggested: A firm, inside his personal space handshake and and a firm thwunk on the back, right around the transmitter, should do plenty enough to rattle him, and if he reacts, that would only look bad on him, as long as Kerry seemed jovial enough doing so.

[Jose Diablo]

20. Ask him if he had a sock in his trouser when he declared

mission accomplished

[Cat Atomic]

21. In both debates, two points seemed to piss Bush off instantly:

1. The suggestion that Bush Sr. was a better president, and succeeded in areas where his son has failed

2. Questioning his intelligence

Kerry hit both points subtly, and I think that's why they worked. He wasn't so overt that Bush could recognize the bait.

[Disturbed]

22. Steward of the land.

Since the debate will deal with domestic issues, I hope Kerry brings this stupid phrase up and proceeds to explain that the Bush Admin. has been the worst regarding protecting the environment.

[loyalsister]

23. That's it

Bush is smarter than he sounds. He is well aware of the fact that he benefits from sounding a little dumber than dad. Dad lost to the Clinton admin because he sounded Republican elite enough for working people to not believe he could possibly look out for there interests.
Shrub on the other hand, comes along and speaks a language working people understand, and mispronounces the words they don't know so that they think he's "one of them." He became a bizarre variation of a "great communicator" with working people who are less educated. Or even people who complained that Clinton was "too polished" and voted for Ross Perot.
I have talked to people who voted for Bush for that reason- against their self interest.
It may have begun as an accident, but I feel very sure that it has been exagerated for political purposes.