Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

We need a scandal. It's time for a new revelation...what will it be?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:40 PM
Original message
We need a scandal. It's time for a new revelation...what will it be?
I feel in my bones there's something coming..anyone else think so?

The public is at a "tipping point." They know there were no WMD/CHEM/BIO...some don't want to admit it, but they know. They know Iraq is not going well, they are hearing hints about "housing bubbles,"and their 401-K's are not doing well. Layoffs continue and the Bush administration and Congress assault us every day with something else that we're not sure is going to be good for us.

I think Florida and the hurricans path through to the Northeast (which has been really downplayed) might be sinking in.

But, nothing seems to "stick." The polls are too close. Something else needs to be revealed. Something so shocking that it can't be swept into the cellar with the rest of it.

What? :shrug:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:43 PM
Response to Original message
1. Rove
..will be outted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. I meant "outted" in the sense of his lies....
...that's all I care about. I really think he will be exposed in the coming weeks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:43 PM
Response to Original message
2. Think "Mighty Wurlitzer".
Google it.

The pros are in da' hishouse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. This what you meant.?
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 11:03 PM by KoKo01
Journalism and the CIA: The Mighty Wurlitzer

Troublesome notes were heard from the Wurlitzer in the 1960s -- but not from American journalism, which had already sold its soul to the empire. Instead, the announcement that the emperor had no clothes was made by a new generation. Much that was dear to this counterculture was stylistic and superficial, and there were many within this culture itself, and certainly within the straight media, who mistook this excess baggage for its essence. Nevertheless, the youth culture's rumpled opposition was sufficient to slow down the machine and let in some light.

The ruling class failed to see the naked contradiction that they had created. They expected that the most-privileged, best-educated generation in history could be forcibly drafted to fight a dirty war against popular self-determination some 8,000 miles away -- a war that clearly had more to do with anticommunist ideology and corporate greed than it did with the defense of America. The elites didn't have a clue that this was even a problem; President Johnson's knee-jerk response to the student antiwar movement, for example, was to pressure the CIA into uncovering the nefarious (and nonexistent) foreign influences behind it.

Thus the crack in the culture that eventually encouraged American media to take a look at themselves. With rare exceptions,<4> it was the alternative press that began to question racism, police brutality, Vietnam, the defense establishment, and the JFK assassination. In 1967 Ramparts magazine exposed a portion of the CIA's covert funding network, whereupon the New York Times and Washington Post began naming more names. By then the Wurlitzer would never sound the same, particularly after the 1968 assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy invited further suspicions.

The counterculture burned out once the war wound down, but it had already dented the lemming-like consensus that typified an earlier period. For roughly ten years, between 1967 and 1977, Americans learned something of their secret history. From the perspective of twenty additional years, the results were mixed and much remains secret. But it's scary to think of where we might be now if the counterculture had never happened.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/CIAPRESS.HTM

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Nice Google...and the answer is...The CIA
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:45 PM
Response to Original message
3. The Media Doesn't Report Boosh Scandals
or if they mention them, they softpedal them and the stories die quickly.

There have been more scandals in this administration than in ALL OF THE
PREVIOUS ONES IN THE LAST 50 YEARS combined, and they haven't made
a dent.

They have a Teflon(R) coating that is 100% scandal-proof (pat. pend.).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Journalism And The CIA
Could this be the tetonic plate that Josh Marshall of TPM was referring to? It seems that there might be a war going on with CIA v. OSP/PNAC
found this link from 1997
http://www.freedomofthepress.net/journalismandtheciathemightywurlitzer.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:51 PM
Response to Original message
5. Whatever is in the Energy Task Force Report
I've been barking for quite a while. No one will listen to me. Please email Kerry, Pelosi, your congressmen NOW.

You want a rip snorting scandal, lets get thing available for the publics eyes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. doesn't the Sierra Club has a lawsuit against Cheney
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 10:59 PM by NVwriter
and it is maybe for the secret energy task force meetings and plan?

Here it is:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/01.28F.Sierra.Cheney.htm

Sierra Club Files Suit Against Cheney's Energy Task Force

Case Asserts Task Force Kept Public Out, Dealt with Oil Companies Behind Closed Doors

SAN FRANCISCO -- 01.25.02 | The public could soon learn how much influence Enron CEO Ken Lay and other power-company executives had in ghostwriting the Bush Administration's energy plan.

After numerous attempts by Congress and others to find out how much influence polluting industries had in drafting the energy plan, the Sierra Club is forced to file a suit today against Vice President Cheney's Energy Task Force, which prepared the proposal. The suit, filed in San Francisco federal court under the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), asks that the White House give a full accounting of who from private industry participated in crafting the national energy policy it introduced last May.

"It's extremely unfortunate that it takes a lawsuit to learn out how much influence polluting companies had over a policy affecting all Americans. If the White House had conducted their meetings in the light of day, we wouldn't need this lawsuit," said Carl Pope, Executive Director of the Sierra Club. "The American people were shut out of this process while energy companies and oil industry were given the red-carpet treatment. Americans deserve to know what happened behind those closed doors -- and the law requires it."

MORE ...


I don't know if it is concluded.

This site here is sort of interesting, has the briefs, etc.

http://www.sierraclub.org/environmentallaw/cheney_case/index.asp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:01 PM
Response to Original message
9. possible top five:
In no particular order:

Improper burial of remains from 9/11
Someone calculates the expense * is costing us using taxpayer money to go to his loyalty oath gatherings...
DeLay gets nailed on ethics and memos/communications on * and Crashcart's ethical... slips... come out in investigation
Polling company (one of them or all) found to have staff taking bribes/sleeping with/both/ * Campaign team
* has brain malfunction (seizure, stroke, TIA) on TV

That seems to be, with the exception of the last, the things coming down the pipe... I'd like to see the story on the Disappeared alleged AQ members take hold, but most Murkins don't care about the civil rights of others enough.

Pcat
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. I Think Plame is coming to the forefront
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:55 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. DeLay might be a possibility...he's disliked by so many...I don't know
about "Plame." Sigh...it's hard to know the deal on Patrick Fitzgerald whose investigating it. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. Please remember
that the Plame investigation was going to wrap up in July, but then was extended. Why? Because the scope of the investigation became much larger. If Fitzgerald were looking to do a cover-up, he would have merely gone after who in the White House exposed Plame's identity. But he has gone farther, asking "Why?" And he's finding that the answer to that leads to an expanded investigation.

I think that Larry Franklin may be charged in the month of October for his role in passing state secrets to the Israeli front. If that happens, and the media is forced to focus attention on the implications of the case, the Bush administration will be disgraced.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
12. Two non dupes (I hope)
(1) F'ing up 50% of the flu vaccines
(2) Inditements from Lawyer Fitzgerald (under cover of being a Repub.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. Sounds like they didn't want it out about the flu vaccines, but to have it
break right a month late seems to hurt Bush more than Kerry...it's hard to know if more will come out about that? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 10:43 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC