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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:36 AM
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Bush-Chirac-Earpiece Video
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:45 AM
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1. so what's the story with this again?
Reporters reported actually hearing this feedback at the time?
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:46 AM
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2. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!
Did you hear the voice select who he would take the first question from - and the complete answer??

I'd never heard this, but somebody's got some 'splainin' to do! :grr:
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:54 AM
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3. thanks for posting this...
I had heard about it, but couldn't play it before.

After checking this out, however, I am more thinking that rather than it being an earpiece giving him the answers or a prompter or something, that it is more likely some sort of audio feedback, or delay of the audio. Notice that what he says, and what supposedly comes through the earpiece seems to be exactly the same, pauses and voice inflections and all.

Not only that, the questioner's audio is repeated as well...
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:56 AM
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4. My theory is that Bush pre-recorded what he was going to say
and then parroted his own words back to him because he can't string sentences together out of his own head from notes.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:07 PM
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5. I thought that too.
However, at about 1:33 or the questioner's question is heard in the same fashion (he asks the question and then after a slight delay, faintly in the background, you can hear the exact same audio.)

So, I'm not convinced that there is anything nefarious going on. Not in this video. It's just that the audio track is effed up, imho.

Then again, I wouldn't put much faith in a video that I see on the web anyway. I'm a sound designer and could very easily put together a video clip that made it seem like just about anything was happening with the audio track.

Not that I think this video is a fake, far from it. I just think that the audio track is messed up and people are reading into it what they want to.

just my 2 cents worth...
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:11 PM
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6. The thing is, a lot of us saw this on television at the time
and commented on it. So it definitely is NOT a matter of jacking with the clip from the original source. Whether or not the audio feed, as done originally on television, is possibly at fault is another matter, but the clips are not doctored.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:29 PM
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9. I agree, I don't think the audio was jacked with...
As I said, I don't think this video was doctored. I just don't think that it is evidence of the feeding of answers to Bush during a press conference.

I didn't see this particular one live on television, but I have seen live satellite transmissions where the audio is out of sync, or there's weird feedback, or echoes, delay, etc... It's the nature of digital communications.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:11 PM
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7. The voice can't say "Nuclear" either.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:22 PM
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8. Oh my god!!!! When did this happen?
How nuts is this?
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:56 PM
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10. Chimpy blows the line "I look forward to working with President Chirac"
He says "I look working...I look forward to working with President Chirac." The prompting voice DOES NOT make this error - therefore this was not just some delay or echo - or anything attributable to a mere technological failing.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:00 PM
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11. I will listen...
when I get home.
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Rochambeau Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:06 PM
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12. I don't know if it is important but the woman translating Chirac speech
for Foxnews is also anticipating what he says, but in english. So it is certainly not a live translation but a dubbed one afterwards.eom
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:09 PM
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13. That was probably to
hear translations when he was in Europe.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:20 PM
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14. funny, my earphones also picked up (unrelated)
the sound of desktop windows opening and closing when at top volume; when I click on Explorer, it goes "chlk" and on Photoshop, "eeent."
kick and OMG
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:25 PM
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15. HAHAHAHA!!!
Wow, he really is as dumb as we thought...

:)
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InfoMinister Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:33 PM
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16. Chirac's Cough Is Heard Before The Real One
The video is a load of crap. Chirac's cough is heard in what people are saying is the radio transmission before he actually coughs on camera.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:36 PM
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17. the second half of the tape sounds like an echo
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 01:42 PM by gasperc
the first part sounds like a different voice

and what's key is that in the first few seconds you hear "I look forward to working with president Chirac" but when it is "repeated" by Bush supposedly, Bush stumbles, so it WAS NOT AN ECHO. Something about the mike setup picked up the "other" voice. Later in the tape it does sound like an echo to me. So just the statement was fed to him, I think.
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:49 PM
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18. im skeptical
i dont this is a recorded voice from his earpiece. what i do think, it does show how easily someone could be feeding him lines over a earpiece. plenty of time during his pauses to relay information.
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:06 PM
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19. What happened??
The link no longer works! I was just going to play it for someone and now it is broken! :grr:
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