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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 04:27 PM
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Mario Cuomo says "W was WRONG on IRAQ!" What else is he WRONG
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 05:11 PM by KoKo01
about?" Mario says: "Forget all the other stuff...intelligence, whatever, he made the decision and he was WRONG!"

You don't need to say much else do you? Forget the Crap the Guy WAS wrong! W is for WRONG!

He wants to join with David Boise (a panelist and Gore lawyer) to challenge allowing the over-riding of Congress by the "War Powers Act" which Cuomo says is against the Founding Fathers wishes of "One Person" making decisions to take us to WAR. He says: "How do we know who this one President will be...a saint or sinner..and that's why the Founding Fathers told us that more people must be involved with the decision to "take America to WAR." (I, personally, hope that Cuomo and Boise get on this right away...)

I heard this on the New York Observer Panel on C-Span I just now. I came into the debate late, but it was an "Inside NYC" kind of media elite gab fest mostly trashing Kerry and Edwards.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 04:34 PM
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1. Remember these slogans which were tied to character:
1) It takes a big person to admit they're wrong.

2) The buck stops here.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 05:00 PM
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4. Cuomo was saying this is how we Dems can Tar Bush! He WAS WRONG!
We don't need to get in arguments over Intelligence, PNAC, whatever.

Putting it all aside...it was HIS Judgement call to take us to war as P-RESIDENT and HE WAS WRONG!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:17 PM
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11. Sure. Janet Reno took it on the chin with Waco.
She was hardly 3 weeks on the job. But she understood the responsibility that came with the position.
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 04:39 PM
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2. Cuomo
Mario Cuomo is the best!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 04:41 PM
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3. I was watching Mario on a show
and I was impressed with him. He talks from the heart.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 05:04 PM
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5. He's a "smart cookie." He said How do you "Retrain Steelworkers to type
on computers with their large swollen fingers from working in the factories."

He said: "How do you do this? How do you retrain people who have worked for years in one field to do something else they might not have the inclination, education or experience to do WELL."

He said that many, many years ago...when America was facing downsizing from another Repug President.

He said it well.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 05:08 PM
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6. I met with Cuomo a few times
while he was governor. He is one of the most impressive human beings I've ever met. He is thoughtful and insightful. I think that he is correct in saying that we should focus on the fact that Bush is not smart enough to be president. A lot of the "main stream" Americans have realized this because of the debates.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:10 PM
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7. Yes...I hadn't heard from him in so long ...I almost forgot how he can
turn a complicated problem into simplicity. BUSH WAS WRONG!

DU and Kerry figures that out with W is for Wrong. Unfortunately Mario makes it sound "REAL." Out of the mouths of the rest of us it sounds like "pandering." :-(

Gotta be comfortable in one's ethnic suit to be a Dem...otherwise you're "herding cats." :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:11 PM
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8. BTW...sad that our young DU Newbies...wonder "WTF" Who's this Cuomo
guy and why is he a big deal...or whatever. :D
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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:51 PM
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9. I heard him speak during the Democratic Convention in S.F.
and also speaking was Jesse Jackson. I'll never forget hearing two of the greatest speakers in the Democratic Party.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:29 PM
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13. Who's this Cuomo guy?
lol, that's funny. I adore Mario. When did he give that fabulous DNC speech? It was like old time Democrats back on the march. Absolutely love him and am so sorry he never ran for President.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:04 PM
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10. Kick ...there must be a few more folks who remember Mario Cuomo the Father
and what a great orator he was..
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:26 PM
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12. His keynote address in 1984 was stupendous
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 01:26 PM by Monica_L
It was a real eye-opener for me and made me truly start paying attention to politics instead of just showing up to vote every couple of years.

I have his book More Than Just Words which is a compilation of some of his speeches. His discussion of how you can be Roman Catholic and personally oppose abortion but still uphold the law is another great one.

I believe he decided not to run for president because he knew how dirty electoral politics was becoming. What a truly gifted man, the polar opposite of what the SCOTUS foisted on us.

Go, Mario.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:31 PM
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14. That speech ranks
with the best American presentations from any era. Another poster mentioned him and Rev. Jackson. In a difficult time for the democratic party, they took the high ground, and pointed out what direction the party needed to head .... to the left. When many of the "moderate" democrats were allowing the Reagan administration to plunder and terrorize the middle class and the poor, these two men stood firmly for progressive liberal policies.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:37 PM
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15. What could have been
and what is.;(
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:01 PM
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16. I still resent
that Dukakis refused to put Jesse on the ticket in 1988. He had earned the spot by any standard that the democratic party had ever used in the past. Not only did he increase minority registration, he had caught the middle class white America's imagination. He had gone to the factories and to the coal mines, and let people know that they mattered. He had done well enough in the primaries that -- if truth be known -- the national leaders were afraid he was coming too close to the nomination. So there were meetings in which other candidates were encouraged to drop out "for the good of the party." I am not interested at this point in anyone's opinion on how Jesse might have done so much as I am in discussing why the party denied the man his dues. I was there in the park in Boston on the 4th of July, and I know what happened. This party needs to recognize that the left wing has been the hardest working, most dedicated group in the party. And after we win in November, we need to make sure that this is remembered.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:07 PM
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17. I met him briefly this past summer
When he was defending Michael Moore. He's great.
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