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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:59 PM
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ASU Frat Boys = Bush Fans
Was anyone else disturbed at the frat boy/* element on Hardball today? Think if they were drafted and getting their legs blown off they'd be thinking differently?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:02 PM
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1. "frat boy element"?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:04 PM
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4. Yup. Looked like TKE's and DX's to me.
:shrug:
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:02 PM
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2. It's no different down here at the UofA man
frat boys down here are all gung ho about war so long as it isn't their ass on the line, same old story.

A "few" of us from Pima County will be visiting you up there in Phoenix tommorow for the debates to unite to show support for Kerry!!
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dietdpfan Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:04 PM
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5. Join us at the Kerry rally after the debate.
It's at Tempe Town Lake. It will be a kick-ass time.

:hi:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:38 PM
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14. Foo Fighters!
Have a good Rally! (My son just started school up there and lives in the neighborhood he's going to the rally yay)
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:03 PM
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3. Frat-boys don't get drafted, they do "alternative service" -
At least, they do under the new plans that BushCo is trying desperately to cobble together right now, for implementation in what? January 05?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:05 PM
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6. They would just say they have "other priorities"
Ooh, my back!

Ooh, my knee!

Then it would be off to ski lodge for an active winter break with Courtney and the sisters of Tri-Delt.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:06 PM
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7. Definitely.
I am one of the ancients who remembers the Vietnam war years very clearly. And I remember very clearly the consequences of the draft, especially when we would see on TV every night a list of soldiers who were killed in action. This greatly concentrated the minds of the draft-age guys. If those little Bushazoids' asses were on the line like that, they might think differently. Unfortunately, it's easy to be oblivious and cavalier when it's not your butt getting shot at.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:13 PM
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9. You said that so well. I was snarling "Send the little bastards to Iraq

if they think it's such a great war!" while they were strutting their preppy GOP-ness.

It always amazes me to hear young men say they don't want to fight in a war they "support." In their misguided minds, "It's something those guys who enlisted wanted to do so they should do it." Someone needs to force them to study logic.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:12 PM
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8. All the fratboys I know are pro-shrub
I'm sure there are some progressive ones, but I haven't met any.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:59 PM
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15. I've been totally shunned by frat brothers for marching against Vietnam
But it saves me postage at Christmas time. All that "brother" bullshit went down the tubes when I turned against the war which few
"brothers" ended up going to anyway. Didn't like it either when I marched for civil rights (we were an all-white frat then). Plus I was toking (wasn't very Izod or Weejun of me...made me a full-tilt hippie) when my brothers were still beer bonging (that changed a few years later, however).

But all those hundreds of pushups during pledgeship did prevent me getting putting on freshman fat, but I would never let a child of mine go Greek.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:09 AM
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17. Pro Nixon in my day.
I've was totally shunned by frat brothers for dropping out of YAF and joining SDS!

But it has saved me hundreds on postage at Christmas time. All that "brother" bullshit went down the tubes when I turned against the war which few "brothers" ended up going to anyway. Didn't like it either when I marched for civil rights (we were an all-white frat then). Plus I was toking (wasn't very Izod or Weejun of me...made me a full-tilt hippie) when my brothers were still beer bonging (that changed a few years later, however).

All those hundreds of pushups during pledgeship did prevent me putting on freshman fat, but I would never let a child of mine go Greek, even if they were overweight.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:16 PM
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10. I wondered....
...why Tweety didn't ask those who were baying at the war moon if they planned to enlist. It's easy for them to be for war if it ain't their own hide.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:19 PM
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11. Fucking Tweety would never ask a real question like that
But boy would he ask stupid-ass shit like "what topic would you like your candidate to bring up tomorrow night?"

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:21 PM
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12. the little bushturd is one of their own
a lightweight, towel-snapping son of privelege fratboy asshole.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:31 PM
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13. No shit. People say "how will Kerry get troops"... well fuck them
I say, start by drafting the college Rethuglicans.

If you support a war and a president to the point of saying that his needless war is protecting our very freedoms, then why wouldn't you enlist when you heard that they need more troops?

These people are not patriotic. They are spineless shithead cowards who only want to watch war on TV so they can feel tough and puff their chests about how proud they are to be on the winning side.

Fuck them, those stupid motherfuckers need to be swept up into service and sent off to Iraq.
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Flor2004 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:03 AM
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16. I would rather...
volunteer my services then send an unwilling republican into war. compassionate liberal...yes i am. NO DRAFT EVER!!!!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:14 AM
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18. Hell, they could have their heads blown off and not be...
thinking differently.
And I would have no pity for those stupid yahoos.
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