We watched a 60 minutes segment in AP World Hist today

[nemo137]

about how fundies support Isreal to bring on the Armageddon. It's all been hashed out here before, but I wanted to add my $0.02:

How fucking blasphemous! A big part of my faith is knowing the distinction between God and myself. He is eternal, outside of time, and because of that sees all possible futures, including the path we take. How are we humans, well designed and infinitely imaginative as we may be, to presume that we know when God wants armageddon to happen and how we bring it about? That's an amount of hubris that should earn someone a place in Dante's hell - sinc hell is for literalists, you know.

Just sayin' my piece. I'm a Christian, and these guys scare and anger me like nothing else.

[oldhat]

1. You're a smart, articulate person.

Get involved with the College Democrats as soon as you go off to college. Please. We need more people like you in the Party.

[bobbieinok]

2. do you anticipate local criticism for teacher 'requiring you to watch

a godless attack on christianity???'

I suspect no AP class in OK could watch this

[Indiana_Dem]

3. I can't figure it out either, how they come to this conclusion.

I'm a Christian, too, but for the life of me I can't understand wanting to create your own armageddon. I often wonder if people living during the 2nd World War ever thought they were approaching the endtimes--yet it wasn't. I think these people are making a big mistake and should let God do His own thing. They just probably think they're going to get raptured up and escape all the trouble they're supporting. I think they're wrong and they'll be so sorry for what they've supported.

Yeah, they scare me and sadden me at the same time.

[DemBones DemBones]

5. Some people in WW II did think it was the end times,

or at least they wondered about it.

We have a Bible that belonged to my husband's grandparents and one of them (or maybe both) made lots of marginal notations about Hitler as the Antichrist, the swastika as the mark of the beast, etc. They were quite religious in what I would call a traditional Protestant way, and they were in their fifties during WW II.

I don't know how widespread such thinking was, or whether DH's grandparents really believed it, but it would be logical for people familiar with some Christian end of times teachings to think about it and connect the dots.

[lgardengate]

4. I grew up in a fundy church and my mom still goes...

I have heard lots of Israel support but never for that reasion. Frontline is wrong on that.The reasion is because the Bible records God saying to Abraham and his son Isack etc "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you".
I heard that quoted A LOT!
I know the "curse" thing sounds crazy but conservative Christians believe in this and that Israel will eventualy be the victor over all there Arab neighabors that go against them, and have Biblical Israel restored to them by God.

Just saying that's what i was tought as a young person.I'm still a Christian but don't go to church as much.