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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:20 AM
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BEWARE: FBI shuts down 20 anti-war web sites
Any body here not think it was just a matter of time till this came down the pike?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/inte-o13_prn.shtml

An unprecedented act of Internet censorship
13 October 2004

The US government move to shut down nearly two dozen antiwar, anti-globalization web sites on October 7 is an unprecedented exercise of police power against political dissent on the Internet. The World Socialist Web Site denounces the attack on the Indymedia sites and demands a halt to all such attempts at suppressing political criticism of the US government.

The shutdown was carried out by Rackspace, a US-based web-hosting company with offices in San Antonio,Texas, and greater London, in response to an order from the FBI requiring it to turn over two of it's British servers that were hosting dozens of Indymedia sites. There are conflicting accounts of the legal process, with Indymedia attributing the order to a US federal district court, while the Electronic Freedom Foundation, which is supplying legal representation to the group, describes it as a "commissioner's order" directly from the FBI itself.

more...
www.wsws.org

Be afraid...be VERY afraid :scared:
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:23 AM
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1. Well duh
We knew the war on 'terra' means a war on FREEDOM.

They can't keep the two of them separate.

:cry: goddess help

She will aid us. I have no doubt.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:29 AM
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3. We are living in an upside down political world.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:36 AM
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8. The Wheel of Life
Turns.. what is up at one time, is down the next.

They will not prevail. Never have. Never will.

The bottom is so hard to bear, though.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:16 AM
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16. I agree with you and Buddha.
The trouble that most of us may be dead before the wheel turns enough to change this awful period we are in.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:23 AM
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2. No, HOWLIN' WOLF-fight back and assert your rights
don't be intimidated or fearful.
Know your rights and be informed or America will be even more fascist.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:31 AM
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5. My concern is how long will it take...
before these Gestapo bastards start skulking around in the night and start kicking citizen doors in? No...I have NO intention of backing down from these parasites. :grr:
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:51 AM
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14. Already happening
That is already happening. For some, they are too scared to come forward, or that have not come forward on advise of legal counsel. However, some, like the protestors and the guy in F-911 who criticized Bu*h while at the gym have come forward. We don't not live in America, we now live in Amerikkka.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:29 AM
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4. Now it begins ...........
If the thought of "four more years" doesn't scare the hell out of most Americans, there's not a whole lot of hope left.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:35 AM
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7. remember 1933-38
An entire nation was hogtied and convinced that Dolphie had a better answer.
And he did. He started a minor invasion of a threatening country to get their economy back on track. Must have been the WMDs.

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:46 AM
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13. Here's a quote from about 65 years ago...........
Supplied by Sibylle Sarah Niemoeller von Sell, Martin Niemoeller's wife. The remark was made in reply to a student's question, "How could it happen?"

“First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”

—Martin Niemoeller
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:36 AM
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9. There's not a lot of hope left for the number of brain-dead and/or
uninformed Mericans, coupled with the number of true-believers who march to the beat of thier drummer in mindless lockstep, is unbelievably mind-boggling.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:34 AM
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6. I know a lot of DU members don't want their identity known
to the outside world, but I suspect the DU database contains a LOT of info- I've often thought Skinner should have a way to securely destroy the DU membership info database at a moment's notice. If things keep up, you know it's just a matter of time before they bust down his door. No use making it easy for the raiding party!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:37 AM
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10. And we know that the FBI has hung out here---
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 08:38 AM by scmirage
Hi Agent Mike:hi:

Skinner my friend, you need to back-up our membership database and contributor list--put it in a secure location and then be able to initate a program which would destroy it from your server if necessary when the FBI comes a-knocking!
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:42 AM
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11. We have POWER
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 08:52 AM by drfemoe
WE ARE 50% of the POPULATION!!!

Even the devil himself could not destroy half of the populace.

Let's not give them that POWER!! THEY DON'T HAVE IT!

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:42 AM
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12. We are watching them
We will continue watching them. Our eyes are wide open now. Make the biggest stink you can. Evil will NOT prevail, people!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:03 AM
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15. I've had attack attempts
on my computer and I've run traces back to the attackers. Rackspace is one. I always run traces so I know what's going on.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:29 PM
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17. Cleveland Indymedia put a message for FBI on their site:
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 02:30 PM by Algorem
(don't know if it's a good idea,but....) http://www.cleveland.indymedia.org/
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:40 PM
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18. Looks appropriate to me...
n/t
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:19 PM
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19. Efthem Zimbalist Junior kick.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:12 AM
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20. Kick!
:kick:
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