TexasSissy
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:02 AM
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Anyone hearing how the Colorado split-vote proposition is coming? |
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Last I heard, it didn't have the necessary support to pass, but a friend has told me that recent polls indicate it does.
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:12 AM
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1. Right now, it's dead even. |
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But, if Kerry is winning the polls here in Colorado, then we Colorado Dems are planning to vote against it, because we want to give 9EV's to Kerry and not split it 5-4. (Although it's more likely it'll go 6-3 or if we're damn lucky, 7-2). It's trending Kerry so we're more likely to vote against it, although a wonderful idea, it's not time yet.
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TexasSissy
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:19 AM
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2. Last poll I saw Bush had a strong lead (52%) to Kerry. ????? |
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That's what's in www.electoral-vote.com. CO always votes Republican. What gives?
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:32 AM
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A lot of idiots here only vote for candidates with an (R) after their name.
Why do you think an asshole like Joel "The Combover" Hefley keeps getting re-elected?
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:34 AM
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5. That would be idiotic. If Colorado is winnable for Kerry,then the election |
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is already Kerry's and he'll win all the tossup states beforehand. He's got about a 1 in 20 chance to win it in an even race.
VOTE FOR THE SPLIT.
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Wed Oct-13-04 11:32 AM
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7. Yes. Bush has a sizeable lead over Kerry there, anyway (CO typically |
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votes Repub). VOTE FOR THE SPLIT!
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:28 AM
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I wish we could have the opportunity to take slice out of the Electoral College here. No matter WHAT the outcome of the election, I would think it better to get proportional electoral voting in my state solidified.
Besides, if Kerry wins in Colorado, Kerry wins elsewhere unexpectedly.
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Wed Oct-13-04 10:40 AM
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Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 10:40 AM by Dob Bole
Either way, the split benefits the Dems in the longterm. If Bush wins the state, 4 electoral votes to Kerry could decide the election. If Kerry wins the state, the 5 votes to him will still decide the election.
Voting for the split will make the Southwest more difficult for Republicans in the future.
I wish my state would do this...then there would be 6 or 7 more for the Dems.
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Wed Oct-13-04 11:55 AM
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If Colorado trends blue more and more, then Dems. could be shooting themselves in the foot in the next several election cycles if they vote for the split now thinking Bush would win and they might as well salvage a few electoral votes for 2004.
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Wed Oct-13-04 12:28 PM
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9. Who is pushing for the split? |
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Might clue in as to who benefits.
Question then is, short term or long term?
We need this across the country. Essentially, giving the vote back to the voters.
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Wed Oct-13-04 01:19 PM
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12. League of Women Voters has endorsed it |
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Anubody can tell it gives the voter better representation. I hope it passes; but I heard this morning it's a bit under, and waffles back and forth quite a bit at the polls.
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Wed Oct-13-04 01:32 PM
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15. The chances of that are unlikely |
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It is just not feasible for the country to have election cycle after election cycle of extremely close races. Between the advantage of incumbancy, sane policy and a smart and handsome Vice-President the Democrats should have a more than even chance of keeping the whitehouse for at least eight years.
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Wed Oct-13-04 12:38 PM
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10. I think spliting electoral votes is more fair. |
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The all or nothing thing sucks, especially in states with lots of electoral votes, like Florida.
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Wed Oct-13-04 01:06 PM
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11. I hope it doesn't pass regardless of who gets the state |
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The last thing we need is another election determined by the Supreme Court. The problem is that this is supposed to take effect this election and that just poses tremendous issues that could make a mess of things. I think having another disputed election, on any grounds, could literally be dangerous for the stability and future of our democracy.
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Wed Oct-13-04 01:22 PM
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13. You're wrong! It's the RIGHT thing to do, for now AND the future. |
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It's just more fair for both parties, number one. And number two, it can only serve to help Democrats in the future, since CO is a Repub state. Three - there are going to be lawsuits, anyway. Four - there would only be a lawsuit in CO if the win isn't decisive there, and all indications are that Bush will win CO decisively.
More and more states should split their votes. I hope we start seeing this spread across the country. Far fewer wasted votes is a good thing for the country.
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Wed Oct-13-04 01:23 PM
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14. good point , even tho |
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I'm in favor of the measure. It might be unconstitutionals, because supposedly the CO legislature decides voting issues, not the voter. But that also seems unfair to me.
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Wed Oct-13-04 01:56 PM
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16. I just reread the U.S. Constitution |
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I think the Democratic position is supported by a careful semantic interpretation.
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
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