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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 04:04 PM
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So if they get Osama, will this magically make us safer?
I don't think so. Osama's M/O has been to populate the world with trained ideological operatives in cells that have little if any contact with each other and who know very little about anything that goes on outside of their own little pocket of death and destruction.

Since Bush invaded Iraq, these pockets of hate cells have sprung up like mushrooms in damp weather across a meadow. The elements were always there. All they needed, like mushroom spores, were a little watering of their hatred of Americans to sprout and spread into what we see happening today all over the world.

Guess what! I don't blame Osama as much as I blame the Idiot-in-Chief whose foreign policy has nurtured all this hatred, death and destruction for all Americans. I fear it's not over yet. We have a long, tough path ahead to right the wrongs that have been committed in our name by a small group of criminals.

Pulling the capture of Osama out of their bag of tricks to influence the election, isn't going to make us any safer than capturing Saddam has made our military any safer in Iraq. Osama has spread his spores and he can die now that his legacy will live on unchecked with or without him.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 04:09 PM
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1. Well, according to Dumbya, it's not about just one person...
..it's about destroying the infrastructure of the organization, and you know we've 'captured 75% of al qaieda operatives', so we're safe already... :smoke:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:54 PM
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4. Yes, but if we vote for Kerry then Cheney says we won't be safe.
I think Cheney tells the truth because he knows that he and Dumbya have so blown it big time, it will be decades before we gain any trust in the ME again. He omitted to say that we wouldn't be any safer voting for Bush.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 04:10 PM
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2. Of course not.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 04:11 PM by klook
Your mushroom analogy is apt. (Or maybe Al Qaeda is like a slime mold.) Bush's botched and misguided response to 9/11 has ensured the spread of bin Laden's ideology.

(edited for grammar)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:56 PM
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5. Slime mold is good.
My analogy was that if Bush hadn't watered on the spores they wouldn't have developed and mushroomed or slimed any way you look at it.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 04:10 PM
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3. Its officially "too little, too late" at this point.
He's been out there for three years, in an age of cell phones, fax machines and the internet. This has been one of the most insane things to have happened EVER. I tell freepers "look what JESUS accomplished in three years!" and it really seems to make the point. Sigh.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:57 PM
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6. Still trying to convert freepers Ida?
Don't you know they don't get it until it hits home and even then they often don't get it.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:58 PM
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7. if you listen to Richard Clarke, he would tell you no
and so would a lot of other experts who study this kind of thing, too many splinter groups have already formed and someone else will just take his place
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 06:40 PM
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9. I believe he's right too.
Osama used the Irish Republican Army model for his organization or lack of it. This way you could extinguish one cell, but the others remain intact and there is no real central authority to kill or capture.
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bigpathpaul Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:58 PM
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8. I really liked JK's take on the war on terror from the Sunday NY Times
Magazine. It makes so much sense. It's really created in me a new sense of urgency to make sure he's elected!

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 06:45 PM
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10. If Osama is caught right now, Bush should go to JAIL!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 06:48 PM
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11. Bush should go to jail for a lot more than Osama.
His whole Presidency has been a reason to indict him. It's too bad no one with authority has done it.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 07:07 PM
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12. U.S. policies in the ME.
Do those have something to do with why the U.S. is being targeted?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 07:20 PM
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13. Those wh assholes have plenty names to pull out of their asses.
- al-Zarqawi currently being the international terror mastermind #1
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