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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:20 PM
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Bush - Americans are too stupid for the work...that's why jobs go overseas
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 08:20 PM by bleedingheart
tell that to the engineers I know...

Yup...those Carnegie Mellon graduates out of work...they are just so stupid...what a joke.
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:21 PM
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1. Fuck you Bush!
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:24 PM
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2. Yeah, the tech worker ads on AAR say different.

You can have as much education as a PhD in India, but you still can't afford to live on their wages.
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:00 PM
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4. kick
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:00 PM
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3. here he goes again.. ...don't answer the question about minimum wage
just call us stupid....
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Johnny 99 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:03 PM
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5. Yep
I guess my master's in chemical engineering means I am stupid. I guess I could always add to my $30,000 in loans and get ANOTHER degree for ANOTHER job that will be shipped out.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:04 PM
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6. same thing here..
I am an industrial engineer...I guess I need to go back to school....
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:13 PM
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7. Yeah... you both need Bushie* training to flip burgers.
That son of a bitch just infuriates me. :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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petrock2004 Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:15 PM
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8. oh oh!! just get a PELL GRANT!!!
don't worry, it won't actually give you enough money to pay for college. but the chimp wouldn't know that, he's never actually had to pay for anything...
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:17 PM
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9. St. Greenspan also says that
he's a peanut-head
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:09 PM
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10. Greenspan is a dipshit.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:18 PM
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11. Weren't they listening to our President?
He just offered them a sound solution. They need to go to a community college.

Sheesh.

<sarcasm off>

Our President seems to think that the only people losing their jobs are the ones who "grew up poor", "don't speak fluent English" and were simply "pushed through our school system."



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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:29 PM
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12. Yes we must train for the jobs of the future - as soon as we find out
what they are. I heard Greenspan say they were coming. Sooner than later I hope. Just go back to school. Lots of money for tuition. How about money to pay for mortages, food, clothing while you're doing it. 2-4 years of just tuition will destroy people before they ever get a job. I guess there's always Ebay!
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:32 PM
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13. If they have thier way the only job of the future will be Serf
I went to a great public school, and a great university and got some government help along the way. I did exactly what I was supposed to do, and now I am working week to week with no benefits temping.

There are no entry level positions and people keep losing thier jobs. Our economy is out of control.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:37 PM
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15. I've been a computer programmer for 20 years. Every time a
republican gets in the White House I have to get a new career. I have friends that can't find a computer job to save their lives, me included. I've been unemployed most of the last 2 years. Yep, did everything I was suppose to do. It's getting old and so am I.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:54 AM
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19. Kick....
:kick:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:05 AM
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20. $8 per hour
This is Goddess40's mom. My son-in-law (not Goddess40's husband) has a degree in computer science and about 20 years experience. He is on his third recent job due to out sourcing and cut backs. This one pays $8 per hour with crappy benefits. He has applied at Wal-Mart where he will make $9 per hour and crappy benefits after 6 months. As for going back to school, who is going to support his wife and four young children while he is in school? Bush doesn't have a clue when he talks about retraining for a different job. And the kicker to this is both he and my daughter will vote for Bush. I am the one they come to monthly for money that I always give them. If it weren't for my grandkids I would tell them to take a hike.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:27 AM
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25. GOOD LORD GODDESS40'S MOM
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 08:28 AM by Skittles
I SHOULD KICK THEIR ASSES. WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR THEM TO LEARN?????

BY THE WAY DID YOU JUST OUT G40 AS A CLOSET REPUBLICAN????? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:39 AM
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26. No way, she was talking about my sister
I'm too far left to ever be mistaken for a republican, especially now that they are fascists.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:59 AM
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29. OK
so I need to ass-kick your sister and brother-in-law? I've got a tight schedule but I'll make an effort to squeeze them in.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 05:27 PM
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30. Thanks, but I think it's a lost cause
But if your up to it be my guest.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:33 PM
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14. they NEVER say what 'skills' we need for the 21 century!
:argh:

hindi or mandarin :shrug:

peace
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:06 PM
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16. Yes....tell it to all the laid off folks at AT&T, IBM, Nortel, Sprint,
Unysis,all the Drug Companies and Banks which have merged leaving thousands without jobs health care, pensions, saving..and the Dot Coms that went bust and the Manufacturing Plants, the Steel and Lumber Mills, the Small Farmers, the small businesses who couldn't hang on.

Tell it to every f**ing American who retrained after his Poppy and Reagan ruined the country by loosening SEC, Bank and Business regulations which had been in place for decades. Tell it to all those folks with college and jr. college degrees, with PhD's and Masters.

Tell them they are all "uneducated for jobs in the 21st Century" you IDIOT who never did a thing in your life that wasn't set up by Poppy and his cronies and criminals. :nuke:
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:13 PM
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17. Community College degree, yeah, that's the ticket for all you brainiacs
with advanced degrees that are laid off. Then you can get a nurse's aid job at $5.15 and hour, right?

This guy is such a fucking asshat.

BTW, nothing wrong with those of you who ARE nurse's aids. That was my first thought on all his 'get an education' answers. So you are telling US we are stupid?
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:20 PM
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18. this probablyn po'd me the most!
does he even realize how insulting this is to everyone, college grads, high-school drop-outs alike. so now what if we had better education and everyone went to college-even if they don't want to, or need to? who would be serving the middle-class their Whoppers with cheese, or putting their money in the cash register at Mal-Wart? or if they have a college degree they'll get paid more than other cashiers and hamburger makers? what about when people are attending college-ever hear of starving college students? It's hard enough to get by on minimum wage, even harder when you're trying to make enough time to study, attend classes, and sleep-sure students can get loans for living expenses, and add to their student loan debt, while gov't funded loaners make money off of interest.

what an elitist, ignorant remark!!
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:09 AM
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21. Well dipshit is too stupid for his job
Let's fire him.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:11 AM
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22. He's his father's son on this issue except
in 1992 the media was actually reporting on the pain and suffering of the unemployed. In the face of record unemployment -- somewhere around 8% IIRC -- all Poppy wanted to do was crow about his victory in the Gulf War. I remember him always coming off as very exasperated and snippy when the topic of the recession, deficits or extension of workers' benefits was raised. It was painfully obvious he just didn't get it and neither does his spoiled brat son.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:18 AM
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23. Yep its BS
But for right now its just an IT issue so the rest of the white collar world just says those over paid nerds are being put in their place. Eventually though their jobs will start being outsourced and much easier will be interesting to see their feelings about it then.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:23 AM
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24. Chimp hasn't lifted a finger in his life
He doesn't know what it means to struggle.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:42 AM
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27. over-centrallization destroys value
The jobs go overseas, because the companies have become too large
and removed from the actual economic basis on which they rely.

What worries me, is that clintonism was just the beginning of this
hollowing-out rotting of american industry by wall street, and that
the lesson to be learned is partly partisan, and party the fallacy
of the republican economics that is endemic to american business
schools and wall street financiers, regardless of the party in
charge.

Real businesses are created at the grass roots, as all businesses
start small, from a seed of enterpreneurs. Putting capital where
businesses really start, is a far cry from allocating it based on
the advise of totally-removed investment bankers and overpaid
fatcats in manhattan corner offices.

The democratic plan to re-invigorate the economy must prick this
dangerous bubble of overspeculation, and under-real-work. And this
can only be achieved by removing the wall street monarchy, and
going back to a democratic economy.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:19 AM
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28. I thought that was what the temp. worker cards were for?
:shrug: no? Oh yeah that's right make it to where an unemployed person can't even get the min. wage job because someone from mexico wants to come over just to work. :spank:
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