Let's be brutally honest... "Undecided's" are idiots.

[devilgrrl]

I read this article posted in this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x903819 and couldn't believe what I was seeing. Where do these people come from? I'll give FREEPers credit in that you know where they stand, how ever insane their stance may be... undecideds on the otherhand are even worst IMHO - worst than those that don't vote at all, unfucking-believable. :puke:

[DrWeird]

1. Let's be brutally honest.

Now's the time to be reaching out to undecideds and republicans.

[devilgrrl]

4. How?

After three debates where Bush looked like a complete imbecile - people still can't make up their minds????

[rkc3]

7. I tried today but got slammed because Kerry is too smart.

Apparently in the 21st century, intelligence is a liability.

[jobycom]

12. I had a Repub tell me the other day

That the problem with Clinton was that he was too successful with the economy, and that set it up for a fall.

Sigh... intelligence isn't only a liability, often is an historical oddity.

[AndyTiedye]

13. The Proud, The Stupid, The Proud to be Stupid

[DrWeird]

9. by sowing doubt.

"Man, we should have nominated McCain or Guiliani, now there's a Republican, I just can't believe how bad Bush actually is."

[candy]

14. It's a personality thing----they probably can't make up their minds ---

about anything.

Did you ever go out to lunch with people like that? It takes them longer to decide what to order than it does to eat the meal.

I HATE indecision!

[benburch]

2. Nonsense.

Some people maintain that they are undecided even when they have a good idea of how they will vote. They wait til the last minute to make up their minds out of caution. I'm sorry but I have to maintain that this subset of the undecided voters are doing this out of respect for the duties of citizenship. So, please, don't use the wide brush here.

[TahitiNut]

10. Up until 2000, I was adamantly "undecided" as a matter of principle.

Nonetheless, I cannot help but think there're two tiers of abysmal idiocy this hear. The bottom tier is occupied by those who've chosen to vote for the Busholinis no matter what. The next to bottom tier is occupied by those who will vote Republican out of habit, and those who remain so impervious to the abominations of this cabal that they "can't decide."

[TwilightZone]

3. I disagree, but not with the assertion that undecideds are idiots.

I think that Freepers who support Bush blindly and stupidly repeat the same 5 talking points over and over and over are MUCH worse than undecideds, particularly after those talking points have been proven to be false, i.e. WMDs.

Actually, "idiots" might be a bit strong re: undecideds. I think that many are apathetic and/or ignorant.

[phantom power]

5. They aren't stupid. They aren't paying attention.

There are many people who really, truly, don't pay much attention to any of this. The economy, the war, the environment, none of it.

They don't watch the news. Fox News, NPR, or any of it.

In fact, my wife more or less falls into this category. She works hard all day, and she's frankly not interested in watching news when she gets home. She doesn't quite understand why I have such strong opinions.

It's not healthy for democracy, but it's not hard to understand how this happens. Imagine the millions of people who work two jobs, or 12-hour shifts, to make a living.

[sui generis]

11. but but but

the ONE THING that truly defines us as a nation and a democracy and only happens every four years is worth paying attention to.

I'm not trying to be mean minded here, but when not learning the issues due to busy-ness is indistinguishable from being dumb as a brick, then the outcome is the same.

I completely understand being exhausted and overwhelmed, but sometimes one has to make the effort to remember not to take our democracy for granted.

[cthrumatrix]

6. I wouldn't say that.... there are many who refuse to give an opinion

maybe they don't want to commit w/o knowing more since they have not been engaged in the "news".

I think the 3 debates will have helped many.

Idiots.....no

[sui generis]

8. I'm with you 100%

Undecideds are unable to do the three basic things required to pick a candidate:

1. Comprehend the issues
2. Comprehend the solutions
3. apply criteria and make a decision

It's either because they TRULY are underinformed and don't have enough information to make a decision (hah! this isn't the 18th century you know), OR

they're attention pigs. Everyone is focusing on them and they love having their 15 seconds of fame. I am quite willing to paint with a broad brush.

[Eugene]

15. Some may be die-hard Repubs considering the unthinkable.

I've been there myself as a straight-ticket Dem.
In a 1990 governor's race, I made up my mind in
the booth.

[teamster633]

18. Undecided about their Senate vote...

...OK, I can go along with that. Undecided about their Representative...Ok, I can go along with that, too. But undecided about their Presidential choice...WTF. There are no shades of gray here. You're either willing to ignore 4 years of incompetence and lies and vote for * anyway or you aren't. Even the true believers out there know he's a failure...they're just willing to overlook that inconvenient fact since establishing a theocracy or plutocracy in place of our current democracy is such an important goal to them. If you have no ulterior motive in supporting shrub, there is no conceivable justification for casting that vote.

[MsAnthropy]

16. They must need all the extra attention they're getting

if they make a decision they won't be the center of attention any longer.

[jobycom]

17. No. Blame the media

Our media today shoots for the middle. They shoot for divided elections and cliffhanger stories where no one is sure of the evidence. If Bush starts getting ahead, they start pimping Kerry, and vice versa. They claim they are trying to be fair and balanced, or whatever industry phrase they choose at the time, but what they are doing is trying to create controversy, because that's what keeps people coming back.

Face it, would you have watched the debates if Kerry had a fifteen point lead? The media knows you (or many, anyway) wouldn't. So they work hard to make it an even race. And it takes a lot of work to make W look less than a total failure. Failed economy, failing invasion, failed to catch the biggest mass murderer in American history, and climbing oil prices, and they have him even in the polls? That's a work of art. Not a good work, but a skilled one nonetheless.

Don't blame these undecideds. They are simply people who can't see past the media hype, or who feel it best not to make up their minds until the last moment. Blame the media. They are the true enemy of democracy today.

[nostamj]

19. some of them are just saying it because

they want the ATTENTION...

"undecideds" are a media commodity and don't doubt that some of them are just playing it to get on TV and get in 'focus groups' and to make themselves seem important.

[leftofthedial]

20. they are just like freepers, except for one thing

while the neocon RW media brainwashing has been partially successful, they haven't yet been trained successfully to supress congnitive dissonance.

they know the little bushturd is a total disaster and waste of skin, but they reflexively believe that any liburl is a spawn of Lucifer.

Avoidance-avoidance conflict.