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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:09 PM
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My "tinfoil hat" flu theory


Perhaps the thugs want us "healthy adults" to forgo shots so that a lot of us will be very sick with flu in January -- too sick to deal with anything they might do to stop the inauguration of JFK and possibly declare martial law.

Or am I being a teensy bit paranoid?

Those nice folks in the B*sh administration would never dream of doing anything nasty like that, would they?


:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:10 PM
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1. umm....
I doubt any significant portion of the electorate gets a debilitating flu at any given time.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:14 PM
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5. Unless they unleash a super strain
Just kidding.. Sort of.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:07 AM
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17. Don't even think that
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:13 PM
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2. no...no..NO
See, we won't go to the polls on Nov. 2nd because of the concern over an outbreak in the polling lines!!

This story is the shark attack story, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain (or the war in Iraq/economy/your lack of health care....)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:13 PM
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3. Not likely
Even a major flu outbreak, like the one in 1918, would only get a relatively small percentage of the adults. And it would hit Democrats and Republicans alike.

Exact numbers can probably be found at the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) website. (Sorry, I don't have the URL.)

For flu to even get close to becoming pandemic, you need lots of cold, hungry, weak, and otherwise-ill people. This is possible in some parts of Asia, but not in North America.

--bkl
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:16 PM
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7. The Republicans will get the shot.
Only Democrats will be left to fend for themselves!!! :puke:
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:21 PM
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9. In the US, the pandemic of 1918 killed 700,000 people, and infected
30% of the population. Superflu is no joke, and it would not only be an issue for cold, hungry, weak, and otherwise-ill people...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:29 AM
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14. You're right -- I was too low on the number.
I had Influenza A back in 1990. I was a strapping young buck of 32, and it nearly sent me to The Promised Land. I can't easily imagine 30% of the country being sick with that kind of illness.

My grandmother remembers 1918 well. She was five years old and had the flu herself. She remembers watching the horse-drawn hearses picking up bodies wrapped in dirty sheets, sometimes a dozen or more bodies on a cart.

But the "cold, hungry, weak, and otherwise-ill people" I spoke of would get it first, be hit hardest, and die in the highest numbers by far. It would be a terrible way to speed up Natural Selection.

For comparison, in the average year, about 30,000 Americans die of the flu.

CDC's Influenza Home Page: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/index.htm

--bkl
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:31 PM
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10. 50 % of population was the top number of "usually x to 50%" get flu
i dont recall x , but i think it was something like thirty percent.
A very small chance i misrecalled this, so doublecheck before taking this as god's own truth.....
all was in an online mainstream news article. Buttressing my recollection , is that is EPIDEMIC every year {tho not pandemic}. The very definition of epidemic is a noteworthy percentage,... i forget exactly what, but it is not the small level alluded to in the posts above.

Most get over it ok, only a relatively few die. Last year the kid deaths were seventeen, IIRC.

BOTH repubs and dems would get it, but with repubs richer, i warrant that fewer of them would get the flu... better access to shots {during this week we had before the gov stepped in and directed shipments.. ponder WHY they waited a week} ,
=== more repubs in bossman offices alone, ...riding in their own car, not busses... better diet, sleep sounder due to no worries, maid to do errands to grocer where crowds mingle, and so forth.

BOTTOM LINES:
Fear of vote lines..It seems to help the GOP. But Backlash would hurt GOP. Another possibility, is osama fiddled with the eggs in england.

PS look into absentee and vote by mail. Carry a small battery fan, to blow air away from any suspect guy near you. Dimestores and Taylor gift type of catalogs have them.
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:14 PM
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4. I like tin foil theories
But I think I prefer the ones with less twists. I think this theory contains a few too many what-ifs and divergent possibilities.

Keep up the good work though ! :) :tinfoilhat:
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:15 PM
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6. Why would a healthy adult want to be bothered with a flu shot?
I never had one until I was 66,and wouldn't worry too much if I couldn't get it now.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:47 PM
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13. Because I'd rather not be sick as a dog for a week or 2....
I don't have live-in nursing; it would be quite unpleasant. And I'd rather not miss work.

Free shots at work? Wait in line for 10 minutes? No problem. But there are others who need them more this year.

Note to self: Lay in supply of Ramen & canned fruit. And cat food (no, not for me).



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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:17 PM
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8. Nothing is tinfoil anymore
when we've fallen down the rabbit hole as far as we have. I would not put anything past these thugs.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:34 PM
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11. My tinfoil theory is that this is proof that we cannot trust
imported drugs. Therefore, yada yada yada....

How did the vaccine get contaminated?
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:38 PM
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12. Nationalize EVERY corner of health, to fix this.
Medicare bill back in sixties failed to nation'ze Big Pill, and look at us now.. seniors going without medicine.

Nationalize every corner of health to end the sick ripoffs that will thrive in any corner left to greedhead control.

Healthcare should be run by compassion, not greed.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:37 AM
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15. This would require British authorities to be in on it
as they are the ones who shut down the plant that was making the vaccine.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 01:13 PM
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18. The company is American-owned
by a firm based in California.

(Theme from "The Twilight Zone" begins playing..."
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:35 PM
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20. So you think that the firm sabotaged its product on purpose?
I guess they are not affected by the profit motive.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:39 AM
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16. I was thinking more in line with
"Soylent Green." Kill off the elderly to save some $$$$.

Hopefully we won't be eating them. :puke:
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 01:14 PM
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19. that pretty out there
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:46 PM
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21. one can never be too rich, too thin, or too paranoid...
in these interesting times. :)

forget who the originator of this quote is, Maybe the Duchess of Windsor...?
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