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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:00 PM
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Here's how I wish John Kerry had responded to the 'choice' question.
SCHIEFFER: Mr. President, let's get back to economic issues. But let's shift to some other questions here.

Both of you are opposed to gay marriage. But to understand how you have come to that conclusion, I want to ask you a more basic question. Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?


BUSH: You know, Bob, I don't know. I just don't know. I do know that we have a choice to make in America and that is to treat people with tolerance and respect and dignity. It's important that we do that.

And I also know in a free society people, consenting adults can live the way they want to live.

And that's to be honored.

But as we respect someone's rights, and as we profess tolerance, we shouldn't change -- or have to change -- our basic views on the sanctity of marriage. I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I think it's very important that we protect marriage as an institution, between a man and a woman.

I proposed a constitutional amendment. The reason I did so was because I was worried that activist judges are actually defining the definition of marriage, and the surest way to protect marriage between a man and woman is to amend the Constitution.

It has also the benefit of allowing citizens to participate in the process. After all, when you amend the Constitution, state legislatures must participate in the ratification of the Constitution.

I'm deeply concerned that judges are making those decisions and not the citizenry of the United States. You know, Congress passed a law called DOMA, the Defense of Marriage Act.

My opponent was against it. It basically protected states from the action of one state to another. It also defined marriage as between a man and woman.

But I'm concerned that that will get overturned. And if it gets overturned, then we'll end up with marriage being defined by courts, and I don't think that's in our nation's interests.


SCHIEFFER: Senator Kerry?


KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. We're not asked to "tolerate" others; we're asked to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. We have far more serious problems in our nation and world than complaining about whom someone loves.

Quite frankly, I don't know why anyone would think homosexuality is a choice, or even say they didn't know, any more than anyone would think heterosexuality is a choice. I've never heard anyone who thought so say that it was a choice for them. I know I didn't make a choice. I am who I am.


(Then, I merely reverse the next two paragraphs.)

I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice. I've met people who struggled with this for years, people who were in a marriage because they were living a sort of convention, and they struggled with it.

And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.

And I've met wives who are supportive of their husbands or vice versa when they finally sort of broke out and allowed themselves to live who they were, who they felt God had made them.

I think we have to respect that.

The president Mr. Bush and I share the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe that. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

But I also believe that because we are the United States of America, we're a country with a great, unbelievable Constitution, with rights that we afford people, that you can't discriminate in the workplace. You can't discriminate in the rights that you afford people.

You can't disallow someone the right to visit their partner in a hospital. You have to allow people to transfer property, which is why I'm for partnership rights and so forth.

Now, with respect to DOMA and the marriage laws, the states have always been able to manage those laws. And they're proving today, every state, that they can manage them adequately.
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SeekingTruth Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:24 PM
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1. I would have just liked to hear him say.....
what does it matter if one is born gay or not? The main issue is descrimination. As with other factors, no person should be descriminated against due to sexuality. And the US Constitution should not be tampered with out of purely political motives.
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