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chuckrocks Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:33 AM
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love thy neighbor. or not...
picked up the michael moore top 10 while ago. thought i'd have some fun with me puke neighbor.

OK, since the modus operandi is to hurl lie after lie, misrepresentation after misrepresentation, as fast as possible, I’ll dissect this load of horseshit thought by thought.
Honest to god, I glanced down to the message, started reading and thought: this sounds like some Michael Moore rhetoric. As I looked up to the url, sure enough.
You guys are gonna have to grow up and face reality one of these days, instead of painting just another ‘hate Bush’ picture. Really.
Really.
Really, Charlie. You are no dumb ass. Why don’t you dispense with the ‘hate Bush at all costs’ attitude and try some reality. I cannot find any humor in this.
I think its PERFECTLY OK to dislike Bush, but one of these days you must divorce this hatred from discussion of issues. It takes too much time to filter out the incivility in order to get to the meat.
Give me a chance by reading my inserts below.
(my introduction-he couldn't even let this go!)
it's not true positions, to his credit, little g was incoherent through the 80's.
~Get off this train. Prove this point or stuff it. Have you ever gotten drunk before, or worse? What’s the point? This kind of cheap shot over and over is beneath you.

Dear Mr. Bush,
I am so confused. Where exactly do you stand on the issue of Iraq? You, your Dad, Rummy, Condi, Colin, and Wolfie -- you have all changed your minds so many times, I am out of breath just trying to keep up with you!

He is so confused. He spouts so much shit so fast, he’s having a hard time keeping up with his own rhetoric. This lumping of a ‘club’ is juvenile, cheap.




Which of these 10 positions that you, your family and your cabinet have taken over the years represents your CURRENT thinking:

~Obviously political tit-for-tat to counter flip-flop claims against Kerry. Just who is he attacking anyway? Kinda tough to defend whatever members of your family ever say or do along with everything every member of the cabinet say or do. Have you ever heard that cabinet members can say things not necessarily the opinion of the President? Sometimes cabinet members are replaced. Sometimes I’m sure they conference with the President in order to streamline policy, possibly after the fact. The point is they ARE individuals, capable of independent thought, not mindless minions.




1983-88: WE LOVE SADDAM. On December 19, 1983, Donald Rumsfeld was sent by your dad and Mr. Reagan to go and have a friendly meeting with Saddam Hussein, the dictator of Iraq. Rummy looked so happy in the picture.

~Was there never a time to conduct talks with Saddam? When was the precise time we should begin to shun him and frown at him? This is again juvenile. This is some sort of accusation that Rummy endorsed the gassing of Iranian troops. Anyhow, W was busy in Texas at the time. How do you lay this at his feet? The same way all this crap is drummed up. His last name is Bush, we must hate, we must hate. We don’t like his beady eyes! We don’t like his pattern of speech. We must hate him, we must. He’s a right wing Christian! More reason to hate. The REAL basis for all this hate.
Tariq Aziz. Gee, do you think we could find pictures of Clinton or other democrats smiling in the presence of Tariq Aziz? Childish again. U.S. loans for anything at all to Iraq, as we have found out, were funneled to death and destruction. Don’t attempt to tie this to republicans only or attach some sort of sinister plan to Bush because of it. ‘Your dad and Reagan’ reference keeps creeping in. Did Moore never have a father or political hero? Reeks of some sort of childish jealousy. Should we not have supported any force to oppose the Iranians at the time, and here comes an arab country to accommodate. We heard no protestations from ANY democrats at the time. Pointing back now is half-witted and foolish. Does anybody remember the hostage seize in Tehran? Jimmy Carter’s utter failure to deal with the problem, here comes Reagan and the hostages go home. The eternal thorn in the paw of the DNC. Maybe that’s where all this hatred started, just a thought.



1990: WE HATE SADDAM. In 1990, when Saddam invaded Kuwait, your dad and his defense secretary, Dick Cheney, decided they didn't like Saddam anymore so they attacked Iraq and returned Kuwait to its rightful dictators.

~Meaningful intelligence indicated the bloodshed Saddam was up to by this time. Idiot!


1991: WE WANT SADDAM TO LIVE. After the war, your dad and Cheney and Colin Powell told the Shiites to rise up against Saddam and we would support them. So they rose up.

~Michael Moore: friend & saviour of the Shiites. Ridiculous. If this were sincere, he would be in Africa attacking the genocide happening now. Our military non-support of the Shiites is regrettable today. However to lay blame on Cheney & Powell for Saddam killing his people is ridiculous and only welcomed by those with an agenda for hating Cheney & Powell in the first place.


1998: WE WANT SADDAM TO DIE. In 1998, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others, as part of the Project for the New American Century, wrote an open letter to President Clinton insisting he invade and topple Saddam Hussein.

~As he cultivated a haven for terrorism, plans sorely needed to be made to topple his reign. As we know, Clinton had plenty of intel at this time to support a fight against terrorism, but it’s a politically unpopular fight to instigate and Bill Clinton never does anything that would risk the stability of his political base.


2000: WE DON'T BELIEVE IN WAR AND NATION BUILDING. Just three years later, during your debate with Al Gore in the 2000 election, when asked by the moderator Jim Lehrer where you stood when it came to using force for regime change, you turned out to be a downright pacifist:
I--I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I--I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place. And so I take my--I take my--my responsibility seriously. --October 3, 2000

~Perfectly prudent words for the time. We have had an attack since then, the greatest attack on our country since its inception, you freakin’ idiot! Put things in perspective for once.
Oh yeah, Bush stutters ‘I—I’, ‘I take my, I take my’. He MUST BE SOME SORT OF IDIOT! Can’t you see that hatred for the man has colored every utterance he makes. Let’s make a animated icon of him picking his nose. Let’s call him ‘little g’. Cheap shots every one. Who’s the idiot now? This sort of shit is useful in the schoolyard for shouting down your foe. Children leave it behind as they mature to adulthood. Give it a try. Have you ever stuttered, or gaffed? Do you jump on your spouse or parents at each slip of their tongue? If you conduct yourself this way, you’ll garner just as much disrespect for your opinion as Moore does on a continual basis. If you don’t conduct yourself this way, then you really do know how to act but just choose to let loose on a personality you regard as an enemy, just like a fuckin’ kid. (pardon, my French)


2001 (early): WE DON'T BELIEVE SADDAM IS A THREAT. When you took office in 2001, you sent your Secretary of State, Colin Powell, and your National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, in front of the cameras to assure the American people they need not worry about Saddam Hussein.

~Ever heard of diplomacy? EVER???? Have you heard about the intelligence scandal? Did you realize there was a Congressional investigation to deal with this problem? Do you think maybe this comes into play with these statements considering the timing?


2001 (late): WE BELIEVE SADDAM IS GOING TO KILL US! Just a few months later, in the hours and days after the 9/11 tragedy, you had no interest in going after Osama bin Laden.

~This idiot claiming we had no interest in UBL after 911 is a flaming lie. If he has never heard of all the military preparations and covert placements carried out within 30 days, he is choosing ignorance. Hell, my mother knows this intel. Saddam continually broke UN directives since ’91. The UN has chosen to stand by and let terrorism flourish worldwide. W will not.


2003: WE DONT BELIEVE SADDAM IS GOING TO KILL US. After no WMDs were found, you changed your mind about why you said we needed to invade

~Congress and the American public supported the invasion of Iraq at the time. It was the right thing to do. Terrorist insurgency now is no reason to condemn the ouster of Saddam and the liberation of the Iraqi people. It took this country eleven years to form a Constitution and set a path for the great experiment of democracy. With proper support from the world, Iraq can do the same even with the dire conditions now experienced.


2003: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Yes, everyone saw you say it -- in costume, no less!

~Yes, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Read it and weep democratic pundits. It does not say ‘WAR ON TERRORISM OVER’. The mission undertaken was excellently accomplished with minimal loss of life by the finest team of men and women on the face of this earth!
Oh, no! George is in a flightsuit! You pinheads. He’s a pilot. You don’t get into a fighter jet without the proper equipment. Poor jealous bastards. Can’t stand the adulation from the military on board and the American public. Childish jabs again. Do you point fingers and laugh at police in uniform, doctors in labcoats, priests in cassocks, the pope in his hat? Moore in his trademark ballcap – now that’ something to laugh at.



2004: OOPS. MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED!
Mr. Bush, please tell us -- when will you change your mind again?

We can't take another minute of it.



~If you are the slightest bit sincere, Moore, don’t take another minute of it. Shoot yourself through the head. History will prove you are the biggest disgrace to ever emerge from obscurity.
Kerry’s slippery grip on this election has now evaded him, the polls have now predicted his certain demise, and the panic is on. This diatribe offered by Moore is the best they can do and it continues to explain just why thinking people all over this country will not support Kerry to represent them when so much is critical to our survival.



i think(hope) my snippage meets the rules. looking over it, most of it is jimmy,and yes, he really did type his full name after each paragraph! the man is a riot!!


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